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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NP wrote:
coboardhead wrote:
NP wrote:
coboardhead wrote:
NP wrote:
mac wrote:
Aw, do you two feel better now than you can justify your tolerance of the racist bigots in the conservative movement with a false equivalency about people who are intolerant of racist bigotry?


Aww, do you feel slighted now that you have to come to grips with the fact that you're a hate filled bigot who withers away his retirement years bickering over anything and everything while kidding himself he's making a difference in this world,....er, um, stoking his ego.

Still waiting for you to substantiate these claims ---- I'm a poor white nationalist? White racism what? Back that up with a direct quote please.


LOL. NP. Do you read what you write or look in the mirror? You just pick fights here. Does that make you feel good? Go sailing or something.


Yes, it makes me feel good to question people whose entire identity is based upon their ideology, and they use that to argue about everything and are so delusional that they think they're making a difference in this world. I wish I could go sailing,

anything, but I won't be doing anything for a long time.


Did you get injured?


Yup, sure did!



That stinks.. I was out for 5 months last year after rotator cuff surgery. Two full thickness complete tears and I lost my upper bicep muscle, all from a freak accident in the fog at Snowbird. After 5 months I felt great with zero pain or loss of range.

Stay as busy as you can, exercise as much as possible, find another activity to eat up your time. Hope all works out well, I'm sure it will..
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is a great example of conservative views...

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/gop-state-rep-bares-buttocks-on-sacha-baron-cohen-show-1283792451953?cid=eml_mda_20180724

GOP state rep bares buttocks on Sacha Baron Cohen show

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Sacha Baron Cohen, posing as an Israeli anti-terror expert, got GOP state Rep. Jason Spencer to scream the N-word, take "upskirt" photos of a woman in a burka, and literally pull down his own pants and run around the room.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is a view by one of the most read ever right wing writer....


George Will on Trump-Cohen tape: "Mr. Trump is a seedy man"

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the conservative way is the farmers do not want the government handouts again... and they know the potential for long term to lose the markts because like I mentioned, Meico can not change overnight but they now know thy can not depend on american farmers so they are developing soth america and australia to provide corn for the long term future.

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/trump-criticizes-nbc-news-report-and-reporter-reacts-1284976195563?playlist=associated

Trump criticizes NBC News report and reporter reacts

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While delivering a speech at the 199th national convention for the Veterans of Foreign Wars, President Trump criticized an NBC News report from Vaughn Hillyard on concerns from U.S. farmers. Hillyard joins Morning Joe the following day to discuss.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually, only 25% of republicans care if the election is stolen by the republicans if the russians help in the upcoming election.

But if it helps a dem 86 % are against russian involvement.


https://gritpost.com/40-of-republicans-ok-with-russia-interfering-in-midterms-if-it-helps-them-win/

40% of Republicans OK with Russia Interfering in Midterms if It Helps Them Win


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According to a Yahoo Finance report, 40 percent of Republicans either think that itís perfectly fine for Russia to interfere in American elections or that even if it isnít acceptable it also isnít really something that matters. In fact, only a quarter of Republicans are bothered by election interference.

A full forty percent of Republicans also either supported Russian interference to elect Republicans in 2018 or didnít object to it. This number is cut almost in half, by the way, if Democrats were helped by Russia. Democrats, meanwhile, reject Russian support vehemently, at 86 percent opposing Russian interference even if it was to elect Democrats to office.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conservative: Less regulations, weaker social programs, stronger military, bigger deficit. Believe in constitutional law with a few exceptions. Freedom of religion only if a form of Christian religion, does not believe the courts should be an independent, non-political branch of the government. Tend to live in fear & are likely to be conspiracy theorists.

Liberal: More regulations, stronger social programs, weaker military, bigger deficit. Believe in constitutional law with a few exceptions. Right to bear arms only if regulated by the government, does not believe the courts should be an independent, non-political branch of the government. Tend to be naÔve.

Both groups believe in capitalism but the funny thing is the liberal policy tends to be more "conservative" with the economy: smaller gains with smaller losses. Conservatives tend to be riskier with the economy: bigger gains with bigger crashes.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Respect for the Constitution and the bill of rights has become selective since the Trumpists took over the party.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somebody makes $60,000,000 a year plus maybe much more (legally) on the side. If s/he's a rock star or a jock, s/he's a hero in the eyes of the Left. If s/he's a corporate CEO, s/he is evil dog crap and should be fired and/or taxed at 90% regardless of how much s/he contributed to the corporation's bottom line. This isn't about money, it's about politics and a selfish belief that "equality" refers to STUFF rather than to opportunity. No jock, rock star, or CEO has taken one cent from me by force. Only the government can do that, and they waste much or most of that.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coachg wrote:
Conservative: Less regulations, weaker social programs, stronger military, bigger deficit. Believe in constitutional law with a few exceptions. Freedom of religion only if a form of Christian religion, does not believe the courts should be an independent, non-political branch of the government. Tend to live in fear & are likely to be conspiracy theorists.

Liberal: More regulations, stronger social programs, weaker military, bigger deficit. Believe in constitutional law with a few exceptions. Right to bear arms only if regulated by the government, does not believe the courts should be an independent, non-political branch of the government. Tend to be naÔve.

Both groups believe in capitalism but the funny thing is the liberal policy tends to be more "conservative" with the economy: smaller gains with smaller losses. Conservatives tend to be riskier with the economy: bigger gains with bigger crashes.

Coachg


Coach , you are spot on with regards to the approach taken by "Conservative" economic policy. Big deficit spending, huge tax cuts, and the removal of critical regulations... All 3 were in play in the early 2000's, and the 80's, and both led to crippling recessions and financial crisis'. In the 90's, we ran a surplus, and had a Treasury that was actually BUYING treasuries... Hard to comprehend today....
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
coachg wrote:
Conservative: Less regulations, weaker social programs, stronger military, bigger deficit. Believe in constitutional law with a few exceptions. Freedom of religion only if a form of Christian religion, does not believe the courts should be an independent, non-political branch of the government. Tend to live in fear & are likely to be conspiracy theorists.

Liberal: More regulations, stronger social programs, weaker military, bigger deficit. Believe in constitutional law with a few exceptions. Right to bear arms only if regulated by the government, does not believe the courts should be an independent, non-political branch of the government. Tend to be naÔve.

Both groups believe in capitalism but the funny thing is the liberal policy tends to be more "conservative" with the economy: smaller gains with smaller losses. Conservatives tend to be riskier with the economy: bigger gains with bigger crashes.

Coachg


Coach , you are spot on with regards to the approach taken by "Conservative" economic policy. Big deficit spending, huge tax cuts, and the removal of critical regulations... All 3 were in play in the early 2000's, and the 80's, and both led to crippling recessions and financial crisis'. In the 90's, we ran a surplus, and had a Treasury that was actually BUYING treasuries... Hard to comprehend today....



The 90s also had the benefit of the internet revolution...
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