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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
techno900, why did you ignore LHDR's post?

Donald Trump cancelled Brennan's security clearance because he wanted to politically punish him for his speech against him. That's not reasonable grounds, and that's why a whole bunch of extremely notable folks with stellar credentials wrote a letters of protest. Don't you get it?

How about Trump's growing threats to cancel the security clearances of lots of other folks in and out of government? Don't you see what's going on here? You can't be that lost, but then again, maybe you are. Just another Trump zombie nodding their head to anything that Trump says or does. All that don't are enemies of the people.

Damn scary in my book.


Brennan was a registered communist. Trump deemed that asshole a danger to our nation.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LHDR wrote:
According to techno, this Brennan thing is a really insignificant issue that gets blown out of proportion by the left!

Well, a few good men felt compelled enough to bother making public statements.

1. The first group includes former Directors of Central Intelligence Robert Gates, William Webster, George Tenet and Porter Goss; former CIA directors Gen. Michael Hayden, Leon Panetta and Gen. David Petraeus.

"You don't have to agree with what John Brennan says (and, again, not all of us do) to agree with his right to say it, subject to his obligation to protect classified information," they wrote. "We have never before seen the approval or removal of security clearances used as a political tool, as was done in this case." The president sent "a signal to other former and current officials" to refrain from criticizing him, the letter continued, and "that signal is inappropriate and deeply regrettable. ... Decisions on security clearances should be based on national security concerns and not political views," they conclude.

2. In a separate six-paragraph open letter published by The Washington Post Thursday afternoon, a few hours before the national-security emeriti weighed in, retired Adm. William H. McRaven, head of the Special Operations Command during the 2011 killing of Osama bin Laden, dared the president to pull his security clearance as he had Mr. Brennan's. "If you think for a moment that your McCarthy-era tactics will suppress the voices of criticism, you are sadly mistaken," Admiral McRaven wrote.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/17/opinion/cia-brennan-trump-letters.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region


Those assholes are deep swamp deep state fools appointed by Obama. Thank God for Trump
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
LHDR wrote:
According to techno, this Brennan thing is a really insignificant issue that gets blown out of proportion by the left!

Well, a few good men felt compelled enough to bother making public statements.

1. The first group includes former Directors of Central Intelligence Robert Gates, William Webster, George Tenet and Porter Goss; former CIA directors Gen. Michael Hayden, Leon Panetta and Gen. David Petraeus.

"You don't have to agree with what John Brennan says (and, again, not all of us do) to agree with his right to say it, subject to his obligation to protect classified information," they wrote. "We have never before seen the approval or removal of security clearances used as a political tool, as was done in this case." The president sent "a signal to other former and current officials" to refrain from criticizing him, the letter continued, and "that signal is inappropriate and deeply regrettable. ... Decisions on security clearances should be based on national security concerns and not political views," they conclude.

2. In a separate six-paragraph open letter published by The Washington Post Thursday afternoon, a few hours before the national-security emeriti weighed in, retired Adm. William H. McRaven, head of the Special Operations Command during the 2011 killing of Osama bin Laden, dared the president to pull his security clearance as he had Mr. Brennan's. "If you think for a moment that your McCarthy-era tactics will suppress the voices of criticism, you are sadly mistaken," Admiral McRaven wrote.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/17/opinion/cia-brennan-trump-letters.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region


Those assholes are deep swamp deep state fools appointed by Obama. Thank God for Trump
can you tell us how many of those that were under obama also served under Bush if not both Bushes.

hahahaha Fox did not tell you so you have no way to figure it out.... hahahaha

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
LHDR wrote:
According to techno, this Brennan thing is a really insignificant issue that gets blown out of proportion by the left!

Well, a few good men felt compelled enough to bother making public statements.

1. The first group includes former Directors of Central Intelligence Robert Gates, William Webster, George Tenet and Porter Goss; former CIA directors Gen. Michael Hayden, Leon Panetta and Gen. David Petraeus.

"You don't have to agree with what John Brennan says (and, again, not all of us do) to agree with his right to say it, subject to his obligation to protect classified information," they wrote. "We have never before seen the approval or removal of security clearances used as a political tool, as was done in this case." The president sent "a signal to other former and current officials" to refrain from criticizing him, the letter continued, and "that signal is inappropriate and deeply regrettable. ... Decisions on security clearances should be based on national security concerns and not political views," they conclude.

2. In a separate six-paragraph open letter published by The Washington Post Thursday afternoon, a few hours before the national-security emeriti weighed in, retired Adm. William H. McRaven, head of the Special Operations Command during the 2011 killing of Osama bin Laden, dared the president to pull his security clearance as he had Mr. Brennan's. "If you think for a moment that your McCarthy-era tactics will suppress the voices of criticism, you are sadly mistaken," Admiral McRaven wrote.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/17/opinion/cia-brennan-trump-letters.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region


Those assholes are deep swamp deep state fools appointed by Obama. Thank God for Trump


You are such a dolt. Of the first list of people, only Leon Panetta and Gen. David Petraeus were nominated by Obama.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The spoiled deep state of the swamp goes back farther than just Obama, all colors and stripes can be found in the spoiled swamp of the entitled elite.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
The spoiled deep state of the swamp goes back farther than just Obama, all colors and stripes can be found in the spoiled swamp of the entitled elite.


Then name them all...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vientomas wrote:
nw30 wrote:
The spoiled deep state of the swamp goes back farther than just Obama, all colors and stripes can be found in the spoiled swamp of the entitled elite.


Then name them all...

There are approximately 5 million people who still have security clearance, most of them no longer need it, and the country doesn't need most of their outdated opinions. The rules should be changed, there is no reason for a law to change, it's only been a practice that has been largely forgotten by most people. I'm glad it's now in the open. The ones that are whining are the swamp dwellers.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
vientomas wrote:
nw30 wrote:
The spoiled deep state of the swamp goes back farther than just Obama, all colors and stripes can be found in the spoiled swamp of the entitled elite.


Then name them all...

There are approximately 5 million people who still have security clearance, most of them no longer need it, and the country doesn't need most of their outdated opinions. The rules should be changed, there is no reason for a law to change, it's only been a practice that has been largely forgotten by most people. I'm glad it's now in the open. The ones that are whining are the swamp dwellers.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on Bard, if Brennan was a registered communist, he would have never received a security clearance, much less being the Director of the CIA under any administration.

Clearly, you're much dumber than I thought, and based on NW30's comments, he's empty upstairs too. Total Trump bots in action.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/08/19/james_clapper_john_brennans_rhetoric_an_issue_in_and_of_itself_now_subtle_like_a_freight_train.html
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