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qwertyjjj



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:55 pm    Post subject: Getting stuck halfway during gybe Reply with quote

I initiate a gybe, back hand back on the boom, tilt sail to windward, start steering, get halfway, twist feet and then I'm stuck pointing directly downwind and can't turn any further. I end up flipping the sail and end up doing a kind of tack to keep turning, sail held back.
Any ideas what I could be doing wrong halfway that stops the turning motion?
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boardsurfr



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're not planing, don't flip the sail until you have turned through downwind. Sailing out clew-first is a good idea if you loose a lot of speed.

If you're still planing, chances are your foot placement needs work. It's quite common for the board to go flat, or even briefly carve the other way, when learning the jibe. Think about keeping a constant carve even when switching feet. Practice the foot switch on land, even in the kitchen. When the front foot moves back, the toes should be on the center line. If they are above the center line on the other side, and you get pressure on the toes, you'll carve the wrong way, and loose speed.
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qwertyjjj



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boardsurfr wrote:
If you're not planing, don't flip the sail until you have turned through downwind. Sailing out clew-first is a good idea if you loose a lot of speed.

If you're still planing, chances are your foot placement needs work. It's quite common for the board to go flat, or even briefly carve the other way, when learning the jibe. Think about keeping a constant carve even when switching feet. Practice the foot switch on land, even in the kitchen. When the front foot moves back, the toes should be on the center line. If they are above the center line on the other side, and you get pressure on the toes, you'll carve the wrong way, and loose speed.


Not planing.

That's my point. I turn downwind and then I stop turning. The only way I can continue to turn is if I flip. I cannot continue the turn to a point so I can sail clew first. I am stuck heading downwind even with the sail tilted to windward (mast tilted to 9 o'clock slightly I guess is easiest way of describing).
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grantmac017



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Switch your feet. You can even do this before you start the gybe.

Are you using a centerboard?
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kmf



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to YouTube, type in "carving gybe". Watch videos.......

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alap



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he is not asking about carving jybe

imho the Peter Hart's vid is the best on the topic of light air pivot jybe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsDI_M3D8H8

pointing downwind is at 2:37

I can add that you can also try to tilt mast even more (almost horizontally)
at that moment. Also point the tip slightly downwind at this moment.
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ctuna



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So many jibe video's
Jem Hall, Peter Hart , Guy Cribb , Charles Dasher,
plus ytube vids from getwindsurfing, Sam Ross and others.
Are you trying to do a step jibe?

Do you have a good non planning pivot jibe?
Can you sail clew first?

to get a full planning jibe you need to master
the non planning carve jibe .f
And usually you will end up doing a carve in pivot jibe out
to start with .
To do a full planning jibe you must have enough power to accelerate
when you start to go downwind if you hope to plane out.
speed is you friend get as much as possible if you hope to
keep carving. You need to pull some g's to keep carving .
If the board goes flat you need to pivot jibe out.
Variable conditions can make things harder or easier .
Three wind conditions
Its' light you can just plane , you will need really good technique to
plane through if you have the right sail. go upwind first to get
more speed going downwiind.
Medium should be easier to keep the carve but you need to accelerate
going in.
Heavy blow you can keep planning straight downwind easy to keep carving
maybe hard to hang onto the sail and flip it without violence.

Get a copy of Trictionairy 3 the windsurfing bible recommended.

Practice the steps on land till they become automatic.
Set up a simulator board and sail .
Do it till it becomes like a karate kata.(a move that doesn't require thinking)
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coachg



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Push the mast towards the water to keep the board turning.

Coachg
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 two types of actions in a non planing jibe:

foot steering and sail turning.

OP, are you on a long board or short?

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qwertyjjj



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jingebritsen wrote:
2 two types of actions in a non planing jibe:

foot steering and sail turning.

OP, are you on a long board or short?


Long. I've watched loads of videos - none talk about stalling halfway through Sad
Could it be the mast is too upright and I need to tilt it backwards/towards me to enable turning further.

Looking at that Peter Hart video, I think I'm not standing far enough back on the board so I have nothing to pivot around...
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