Let's Talk Cammed Sails

techno900 · Joined: 28 Mar 2001 Posts: 4161

swchandler said:

akrausz · Joined: 19 Sep 2008 Posts: 158 Location: FL

Beside mast compatibility benefits, you don't have to worry about over bending cams and battens on RAF sails when you want to rig full.

Your 114 Futura is well-matched to your 7.5 and smaller Retros. Matching the sweet spot of a board and sail goes a long way. I think a bigger/wider freerace, or even slalom for it's early planing, in the 120 liter and up range will match up nicely with the 7.5 Retro which is a great early planing sail. The 8.0 Retro may also work on a 460 at your weight. Your weight is good one for maxing out a 460 mast and forgetting the 490.

alap · Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 156

OP wants to add a sail, not to replace one, if I am not mistaken

Replacing 7.5 with 7.8 or 114 with 120 may make sense, but adding 7.8 to 7.5 or 120 to 114 does not. I personally had 145 at 82 wide and 130 at 73 wide, and this was like two very similar boards. Ended up selling 130 and buying 115 Blast. 30 litres is a good separation IMHO for light air boards

Also guys keep in mind that Vancouver is no wind zone (unless you go to Squamish in the summer). 15 knot is rare and is a big storm day

swchandler · Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588

Maybe if mamero adds a 7.8 NX cambered race sail and he likes it, he just may sell the 7.5 Retro. Makes sense to me. Even if he keeps both sails, the performance differences between a cambered race sail and a no-cam freeride sail could justify having both. Kind of like having two 100 liter boards where one is a slalom board and the other is freestyle or wave board.

konajoe · Joined: 28 Feb 2010 Posts: 517

Are you rigging 7.5 Retro per Sailworks Retro guide for light wind? (Gotta ask. Some folks insist on only using one setting for each sail.)

isobars · Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935

Wow ... 5 pages of answers before anyone asks THE one indispensable question: What's your objective in going to cams? IOW ... define "better".

FWIW, I'm with Craig.

mamero · Joined: 25 Aug 2013 Posts: 380 Location: Vancouver, Canada

Just bought a good condition 2014 8.6 NX with a 100% 490 Lightstick. Also going to order up a 46cm Makini KAULIA v2 fin tomorrow. I sometimes get spin-out with my 42cm and 7.5 Retro so I think the 46cm should be good with the 8.6. Now just hoping for some end of season weather to give it a go.

grantmac017 · Joined: 04 Aug 2016 Posts: 946

Get that from Andreas? Did you get rigging instruction?

techno900 · Joined: 28 Mar 2001 Posts: 4161

iso said:

jingebritsen · Joined: 21 Aug 2002 Posts: 3371

mamero

spin out is more than likely a pilot factor than fin size.

i prefer a 40 cm fin from 7.2 to 9.0 sail.

get some forward speed before pushing against fin with back foot. save yourself some $$$ and constant fin switches.

edit this disclaimer for the knit pickers of the world:

78 wide race to free race boards, for me match up well with 40 cm molded fins of moderately good quality or better in central florida winds when using 9.0 to fairly lit up 7.2 sails.

when the 7.2 is maxed, it time to switch to a smaller board. so the fin, 40 cm custom select, has worked well for me for quite a long time. the need for anything other on such a combo is pretty negligible.