| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
boggsman1
Joined: 24 Jun 2002
Posts: 9120
Location: at a computer
|
 Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:33 am Post subject: |
 |
|
| CB...not only is Mayor Pete articulate and personable, he also has the most middle of the road , sensible economic policy ideas. His answer about China had more depth than any explanation the Trump administration has articulated in 2.5 years. Like the early 90's when the US beat Japan to the punch on the desktop, we need to beat China to the punch on AI, and many other technology fronts...and tariffs wont do the trick. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008
Posts: 6485
Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
|
| Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
The debates were a complete disaster for the democrats, just about every one of them support a huge flaw in what they want, the decriminalization of the border combined with free healthcare for immigrants, Harris being one of them!
There is no way that something like can be justified on so many levels,,,,, there goes the country.
People will be coming from all corners of the world, to come here for free healthcare. As Chris Wallace said this morning, what was even worse than that flaw, was how none of the moderators ever challenged any of the candidates on that very flaw, they just accepted it.
Good luck with that, that dog won't hunt. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
real-human
Joined: 02 Jul 2011
Posts: 14877
Location: on earth
|
| Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:46 am Post subject: |
|
|
| nw30 wrote: | The debates were a complete disaster for the democrats, just about every one of them support a huge flaw in what they want, the decriminalization of the border combined with free healthcare for immigrants, Harris being one of them!
There is no way that something like can be justified on so many levels,,,,, there goes the country.
People will be coming from all corners of the world, to come here for free healthcare. As Chris Wallace said this morning, what was even worse than that flaw, was how none of the commentators ever challenged any of the candidates on that very flaw, they just accepted it.
Good luck with that, that dog won't hunt. |
that was certainly a setup question.
there is free healthcare in reality in Mexico as long as you have any sort of job or significant other does and NO child is left behind. They do not stop there do they.
as long as republicans do not continue to pay the ultra poors free bus ride to the border we will be fine.
_________________
when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
coboardhead
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
Posts: 4303
|
| Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| nw30 wrote: | The debates were a complete disaster for the democrats, just about every one of them support a huge flaw in what they want, the decriminalization of the border combined with free healthcare for immigrants, Harris being one of them!
There is no way that something like can be justified on so many levels,,,,, there goes the country.
People will be coming from all corners of the world, to come here for free healthcare. As Chris Wallace said this morning, what was even worse than that flaw, was how none of the moderators ever challenged any of the candidates on that very flaw, they just accepted it.
Good luck with that, that dog won't hunt. |
NW. Many of my friends are physicians. I can tell you that right now, at this time, in Colorado, any poor person receives free health care when it is an emergency room visit. My wife also spent time, as a resident, providing health care for the migrant health services agency. What makes sense is to provide lower costs health care using agencies like this instead of using the ER. This applies to illegal immigrants, legal migrant workers and our poorer citizens.
In my industry, a high percentage of the manual laborers are migrant workers. Most have green cards...at least my friend who is the largest regional employer in concrete construction tells me. Healthy workers are good for our economy. We should provide basic human needs, including health care, if we invite them to work in our economy. And, we do invite them here whether we want to believe that or not.
I think we all know that immigration reform is a wrestling match. The right loves that Trump will negotiate from an extreme position. Yet, doesn't recognize that this is exactly what the left is doing. Obama is an example of what happens when you actually have to govern. No one is happy with the result.
I'm not sure that health care is what is driving the Central American refugee problem. I, sincerely, doubt that the father fleeing violence in El Salvador to find a safe place for his family is doing it to get an appointment with a Pediatrician. We are so worried about being taken advantage of by hordes of poor overtaking our border that we forget to do some math over the situation. For better or worse, our economy relies on the contribution of immigrants. We always have.
We do have options here that are less romantic than building a wall. Maybe we need to really look at the political issues that force these people to risk their lives, and the lives of their children to escape. I think this issue was brought up by several of the candidates last night. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
coboardhead
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
Posts: 4303
|
| Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| boggsman1 wrote: | | CB...not only is Mayor Pete articulate and personable, he also has the most middle of the road , sensible economic policy ideas. His answer about China had more depth than any explanation the Trump administration has articulated in 2.5 years. Like the early 90's when the US beat Japan to the punch on the desktop, we need to beat China to the punch on AI, and many other technology fronts...and tariffs wont do the trick. |
Yeah. I've listened to Buttigieg discuss AI and how he sees it affecting workers and our economy and how we need to figure out how to integrate it or be left behind. But, do you think this sells in this election? If we wanted to elect a President based on intelligence and competency, we wouldn't have the current occupant of the WH. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
boggsman1
Joined: 24 Jun 2002
Posts: 9120
Location: at a computer
|
| Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| coboardhead wrote: | | boggsman1 wrote: | | CB...not only is Mayor Pete articulate and personable, he also has the most middle of the road , sensible economic policy ideas. His answer about China had more depth than any explanation the Trump administration has articulated in 2.5 years. Like the early 90's when the US beat Japan to the punch on the desktop, we need to beat China to the punch on AI, and many other technology fronts...and tariffs wont do the trick. |
Yeah. I've listened to Buttigieg discuss AI and how he sees it affecting workers and our economy and how we need to figure out how to integrate it or be left behind. But, do you think this sells in this election? If we wanted to elect a President based on intelligence and competency, we wouldn't have the current occupant of the WH. |
No, I don't. But I am very impressed with his political wits, and smarts.... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mat-ty
Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Posts: 7850
|
| Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Remember who said Biden, Harris, or the little gay guy first.......  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
real-human
Joined: 02 Jul 2011
Posts: 14877
Location: on earth
|
| Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
here come the russians to help right wingers...
_________________
when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
real-human
Joined: 02 Jul 2011
Posts: 14877
Location: on earth
|
| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:17 am Post subject: |
|
|
numbers are coming in....
biden sinking ship...
https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-support-slipped-10-points-193827221.html
Biden's Support Slipped 10 Points After Debates, Poll Shows
| Quote: | The first Democratic primary debates appear to have cost Vice President Joe Biden some of his supporters – at least for now, one poll suggests.
Polling by Morning Consult and FiveThirtyEight before and after the two debates on Wednesday and Thursday suggests that support for Biden dropped by about 10 points among likely Democratic voters, when asked who they would choose if the election were held tomorrow.
Biden had previously enjoyed a healthy lead over the other Democrats. The polling prior to debates, which was conducted between June 19 and 26, suggested that Biden was supported by about 41.5% of voters. At that point, the polling showed Sen. Elizabeth Warren had the support of 12.6% of voters and Bernie Sanders had 14.4% of support.
Biden appears to have slipped in the polls after each debate, his support falling to 35.4% after the first debate and to 31.5% after the second round.
Post-debate analyses suggest that Sen. Kamala Harris’ strong debate performance – coupled with her willingness directly attack Biden, including his civil rights record – posed a challenge for the former Vice President. In one of the most heated moments of the debate, Harris drew attention to Biden’s previous opposition to busing as a tool to promote school integration.
The poll also showed Harris gaining a significant number of supporters. While she had the support of just 7.9% of likely voters before the debate, she had 16.6% of the the support afterwards.
Other candidates appeared to experience smaller gains and losses, according to the poll. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ support rose from 14.4% to 17.3% after the second debate; Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s support grew from 12.6% to 14.4%. |
_________________
when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
real-human
Joined: 02 Jul 2011
Posts: 14877
Location: on earth
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:00 am Post subject: |
|
|
https://news.yahoo.com/harris-surges-biden-slips-debates-polls-210034583.html
Harris surges, Biden slips after debates: polls
AFP AFP•July 2, 201936 Comments | Quote: |
California Senator Kamala Harris, a candidate for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination, has received a surge in support following last week's presidential candidate debates (AFP Photo/Sean Rayford)
1 / 2
California Senator Kamala Harris, a candidate for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination, has received a surge in support following last week's presidential candidate debates
California Senator Kamala Harris, a candidate for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination, has received a surge in support following last week's presidential candidate debates (AFP Photo/Sean Rayford)
Washington (AFP) - The two Democratic presidential candidate debates appear to have reshuffled the deck in the crowded field, with California Senator Kamala Harris surging and former vice president Joe Biden slipping.
Three polls conducted since last week's debates have shown eroding support for the 76-year-old Biden, who has been the frontrunner since entering the race for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination in late April.
Harris, the 54-year-old junior senator from California, picked up substantial backing, meanwhile, from Democrats and Democratic-leaning voters in the polls conducted by Quinnipiac University, CNN and Politico/Morning Consult.
Twenty percent of Democrats surveyed in a Quinnipiac poll published on Tuesday said they backed Harris, a former California attorney general who aims to be the first black female US president. Harris was at just seven percent in a June 11 Quinnipiac poll.
Biden, the former Delaware senator who served as vice president under Barack Obama for eight years, saw his support drop to 22 percent in the latest Quinnipiac poll from 30 percent in the June 11 survey.
The surge in support for Harris in the Quinnipiac poll -- and Biden's fall -- was roughly mirrored in the polls conducted by CNN and by Politico/Morning Consult. |
_________________
when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
  |
iWindsurf Community Forum Index
-> Politics, Off-Topic, Opinions |
All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 Next
|
| Page 7 of 9 |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum
|
|
|
Search
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Register
