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rtz
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 296 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:28 pm Post subject: Ideal conditions to learn water start? |
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Higher wind and small sail or lower wind and big sail?
Or a certain wind speed and sail size?
What conditions would be most optimal? |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Debatable. What is not debatable is this: Every time there's wind gusting over 15 mph, get on (actually in) the water and work on your water starts. With good videos and sufficient wind, you should be able to get pretty good at it in one long day. It's worth whatever it takes because it's probably the most vital skill in the entire sport. |
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coachg
Joined: 10 Sep 2000 Posts: 3550
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Probably easiest to learn with sails under 6 meters. Clearing the clew can be a challenge with bigger sail when learning to water start.
Water between waist & chest deep helps as well. Upper teens to low 20's make for pretty good learning conditions.
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dllee
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5329 Location: East Bay
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Steady 15 mph breeze, warm water, 4' depth,hard sand bottom, no waves, 5 meter sail. |
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joethewindsufa
Joined: 10 Oct 2010 Posts: 1190 Location: Montréal
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:11 am Post subject: |
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and no 20 meter sail in 5 knots |
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rigitrite
Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 520 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Make a trip to Corpus Christi, Hatteras, or (if you have more $$$) Bonaire. Perfect conditions in all those places. _________________ Kansas City |
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manuel
Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 1158
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:00 am Post subject: |
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I learned by beach starting lower and lower in the water. Then figured it out in the middle of the lake.
Optimal conditions are smooth winds, medium wind speed for the sail size, and flat water.
In general, the stronger the wind for the sail size, the more upwind we want to start, the weaker the further downwind.
Try and roll onto the board with your legs and not the sail is important, leveraging board volume and float, less vulnerable to wind change. _________________ *NEW* - Manu's Windsurfing Blog, The STORE! |
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techno900
Joined: 28 Mar 2001 Posts: 4162
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:33 am Post subject: |
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If you don't have the luxury of shallow water to learn, try a longboard. I learned on my first board, a poly HiFly 500 in 1984. When I fell to windward when sailing and if I didn't sink the sail, I tried to water start. It didn't take long to be successful. And if all goes wrong, uphaul and sail home. |
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ss59
Joined: 10 Nov 2016 Posts: 104
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Would agree, not bigger than 6m - also, smaller, relatively lower volume boards are a lot, lot easier to waterstart - the classic second board (litres roughly = weight in kg + 50 ) is ideal
For many people, the rig recovery is actually the hardest part of the waterstart and is something you can practice chest deep water |
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ramps
Joined: 07 May 2000 Posts: 94
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Don't forget that a significant part of the skill is maneuvering the rig to get in water start position in deep water. |
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