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rtz
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 296 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:34 pm Post subject: Fastest board and sail combo |
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Is there one board and one sail that is hands down the fastest on the water?
For winds in the 20mph range; what is an unbeatable combo on the water? Or some of the fastest known boards and sails? |
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dvCali
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 1314
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Fastest board and sail combo |
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rtz wrote: | Is there one board and one sail that is hands down the fastest on the water?
For winds in the 20mph range; what is an unbeatable combo on the water? Or some of the fastest known boards and sails? |
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(But if you want to go fast you need a slalom board and cams. Or, if you are under 7.0/7.5 a serious RAF freerace sail, like a Point-7 ACX. In 20 mph, just 17 knots (why people use mph?) you should be on 7.3-7.8 depending on your weight. Other than that, any slalom board and any racy sail, it is all you: the pilot. |
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grantmac017
Joined: 04 Aug 2016 Posts: 946
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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The fastest slalom combo will be slower than an easy freeride combo in the hands of a beginner. |
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coachg
Joined: 10 Sep 2000 Posts: 3550
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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And we have not even begun to discuss fins.
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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If there were, everyone would be on it, at least during that phase of his WSing career. |
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cgoudie1
Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 2599 Location: Killer Sturgeon Cove
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: Fastest board and sail combo |
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Mr RTZ.
The fastest rig I ever rode was a Custom Erich Voight CFX and a 5.5 sailworks Retro. That combo just smoked, but it was a scary ride in good. wind. You're not going to find anything like that today. I also had a GEM
I think that was a Mark Green shape that was also smok'n fast, with a 6.5 V8. Nothing like that today.
Those were the fastest on the water for me.
-Craig
p.s. like Mike eluded, everybody goes through that phase on their way to something else with more turns.
rtz wrote: | Is there one board and one sail that is hands down the fastest on the water?
For winds in the 20mph range; what is an unbeatable combo on the water? Or some of the fastest known boards and sails? |
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rtz
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 296 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:51 am Post subject: |
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Let's talk about fins too. |
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kevinkan
Joined: 07 Jun 2001 Posts: 1661 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:23 am Post subject: |
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well then we might as well talk about technique and tuning, too... the fastest gear is slow with bad technique and bad tuning.
also, leverage helps for going fast. big power triangles, long limbs.
get your gear dialed and your technique down, and you will go pretty fast on anything.
for now, something that's relatively easy to control is likely going to yield good results. a good fin can make a huge difference in control and speed.
I had a Hawk 93 LTD that was pretty fast. LeeD gave me a carbon fin that was magic in that board. It was the most ridiculous looking fin, but that thing smoked. It was great until it snapped off at the base mid-jump.
Speed runs behind Brooks Island on starboard tack on my Falcon 101 & 7.0 was pretty fast too. Had a Vector Rockit Carbon 34cm that paired well for me.
Even my STB 85 w/ thruster fin setup feels pretty dang fast (and great control). _________________ Kevin Kan
Sunset Sailboards, San Francisco CA
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techno900
Joined: 28 Mar 2001 Posts: 4161
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:22 am Post subject: |
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It's all about control. The fastest board and sail in 20+ winds will be crazy wild until one has the experience to stay in control. Slalom boards are fast, but ride rough in choppy or wavy water. Freeride boards with narrower tails and more V in the bottom are easier to control, smoother riding and probably faster for the intermediate sailor. Race sails have more control when overpowered, which is what one needs for max speed. |
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coachg
Joined: 10 Sep 2000 Posts: 3550
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Rtz,
Water, like land, has different types of terrain and the fastest board is going to be a board built for that terrain. An old 1972 Toyota Pickup would crush a 2019 Formula race car in a race across a dirt field. Also, is your speed across the wind, up wind, down wind or fastest in all directions? So, as you see, you are asking an open ended question without context.
As stated earlier, speed is all about control. In order of importance you gain control by:
1. Technique
2. Tuning
3. Equipment built for the intended direction & terrain
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