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rtz



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:39 pm    Post subject: Neil Pryde film delamination Reply with quote

The outer film is separating completely from the inner layer. Is this a known issue and normal with this type of material?

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manuel



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen it on North sails too. Also common on very old sails that had two types of materials (fabric+plastic) glued together. I wouldn't worry about it and sail it hard!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old is the sail?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an "A graded" sail from 2017:

https://adventuresportsusa.com/windsurf/used/sail.html
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sails are from a rental center..? Boards with nose protectors are from a rental..
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With used sails from a tropical climate, you kind of got to accept the result. The prices aren't really that out of line. Check full retail pricing.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting back to the original question- delam of x-ply type materials was quite common on sails made during the 80’s and into the 90’s. Manufacturing processes have improved since then, and a sail as new as yours should not be delaminating. All of my sails (some of which date back to the late 90’s) have some amount of x-ply in their construction and none of them show signs of delam that I’m aware of. In my opinion, with modern sails, this is not a normal issue.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. NP
2. Rental, probably
3. Bargain price, for a reason
4. Left rigged, in the sun a lot
5. For a personal sail it’s nor normal.
6. Will the seller address its condition?
7.Lesson learned ?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

U2U2U2 wrote:
Sails are from a rental center..? Boards with nose protectors are from a rental..


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

U2U2U2 wrote:
1. NP
2. Rental, probably
3. Bargain price, for a reason
4. Left rigged, in the sun a lot
5. For a personal sail it’s nor normal.
6. Will the seller address its condition?
7.Lesson learned ?


I think they have priced the gear appropriately for their history. If I needed a sail I'd consider buying one of those sails knowing their history.
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