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manuel



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried a waist on bigger gear and had a hard time. Maybe bigger folks can do it but for 7.0+ I had much greater leverage and can use my leg strength to counter the huge torque of 9.0+ and formula wearing a seat.
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fxop



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NW30: awhile back you posted a picture of a high hook seat harness you got from Australia -- can you post your source, also did it run true to size?

Flyingobjects "Transit" model.

I'm 5'10" 175 + 4/3 wetsuit, thinking "L".

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fxop
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DanWeiss



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgoudie1 wrote:
Greetings GT,

I'll try and make this brief. I am tall and relatively thin (as a young man I
I Was 6'3" and 165 lbs). My structure is pretty light. As my physicians
have put it, people built like me are high risk for low back problems.
Also as a young man (20s) I had a job that required considerable heavy
lifting. The combination of those things (of course it wasn't the reckless abandon mogul skiing ;*) ) caused my L4/L5 to rupture. The 1st surgery
was a discectomy (basically just cutting away anything impinging on my
spinal column at L4/L5. I think I was 24 at the time. That worked well
until I was about 34, when what was left of my disk had collapsed to the
point that a full on L4/L5 fusion was in order. That also worked very well
(and that is extremely lucky for me as most are pretty much done with
active sports after that, some are even done walking or running). That
did require a long recovery and worked great for about
10 more years. The issue with fusion in general, is that even if all goes
perfectly, the disks above the fused vertebrae, now have to deal with
more stress, and they start to deteriorate. At 44, I embarked on a
pretty regimented physical therapy, which kept me in reasonably good
condition for many more years. At 63 years I consider myself possibly
the most fortunate person alive, because I'm still very active (for an old dude) and in fact my friends (most of whom are much younger than I)
are starting to catch up to me in the aches and pains department (misery
loves company). I will mention that I discovered the best therapy (for me)
is to get horizontal mid day for about an hour. Forcing myself to do this
seems to have really improved my back health.

Also (according to my doctors, some of whom I have outlived) I apparently
have a high tolerance to pain.

So, any day on a bike, or the snow, or the water, or just hiking, is pure
bonus for me, and I cherish each. If I'd been born 45,000 years ago, I'd
have been wolf food at 24.

I recently taught my Grandson and Granddaughter how to skateboard, how's
that for extended play in the bonus round of life. ;*)

-Craig

p.s. There may be a seat harness in my future, we'll see how it goes.

GURGLETROUSERS wrote:


I'm curious Craig. What was your 'poster boy' back problem, and what surgical cure did it require?


Craig, I'm in for a laminectomy and fusion at L5-L4 in two weeks. Disk between the vertebrae is dust, causing L4 to tip back into spinal chord. The neurosurgeon agrees that L4-L5 fusion is the one to have if your having one at all if for no other reason than only the disk above L4 is stressed due to nothing below L5. I'm hoping to return to the water in mid July.

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nw30



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fxop wrote:
NW30: awhile back you posted a picture of a high hook seat harness you got from Australia -- can you post your source, also did it run true to size?

Flyingobjects "Transit" model.

I'm 5'10" 175 + 4/3 wetsuit, thinking "L".

Thanks,
fxop
I got it from Sunshine Coast Sailboards, which is in Caloundra, Au. Their website is https://www.scboardsports.com.au/ but I noticed that the harness is not on their website, so not sure if they still sell them or not. But you can go to the Flying objects website to see the latest in that harness, it now has a hard shell back, but you might be able to still get one like mine which is still pictured on their site. http://www.flyingobjects.com.au/products/windsurf/transit/
Any prices that you find are in AUD which is higher than our USD, so the exchange rate is in our favor.
The sizes are the same as ours, and it only took a bit less than two weeks for it to arrive. With shipping included, it cost me less than getting a comparable Dakine harness, shipping included.
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dllee



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dk Speed seats work well for higher hook sailing
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cgoudie1



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Dan,

I'm very sorry you get to experience that. The surgery is
probably better now, and the PT also. I had a bone stim battery implanted
during the fusion. Not sure they even do that anymore, but it worked to get me good bone growth. They took some bone from my hip to make some nice "bone grout" to pack around where they "freshened" up my
vertebrae facets. I'll be wishing you good success (I'm sure you're well
aware of the "odd"s). Be very careful afterwards for as long as they tell
you, and wait to see some good solid growth before you get out.

It was 6 months before I had enough bone growth to be released for windsurfing.

You'll find that you get zingers down your legs for a good year afterwards.
They were a little disconcerting, but apparently not a big deal, (they sure panicked me though).

You will want to take care of your back after that. I don't lift anything over 30 lbs from the floor these days. Windsurfing actually seems to help, as does snow skiing (as long as I stay out of the bumps).

The doc who did my fusion understood me pretty well (and I him). He said
if I ever stopped moving, I'd be done, and I've taken that to heart. He's dead now though, so who knows ;*).

I wish you the best success possible!

-Craig

p.s. PM me if you have questions, it's been a long time, but I'll tell you what I remember.

DanWeiss wrote:

Craig, I'm in for a laminectomy and fusion at L5-L4 in two weeks. Disk between the vertebrae is dust, causing L4 to tip back into spinal chord. The neurosurgeon agrees that L4-L5 fusion is the one to have if your having one at all if for no other reason than only the disk above L4 is stressed due to nothing below L5. I'm hoping to return to the water in mid July.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgoudie1 wrote:
Be very careful afterwards for as long as they tell you, and wait to see some good solid growth before you get out. It was 6 months before I had enough bone growth to be released for windsurfing.

Maybe longer. My doc said my collarbone was healed thoroughly and ready for dirt bikes again, but he was wrong. First little low-speed tumble and it snapped again. Now, when I'm letting something heal, I look ahead at the forecast past each tempting day. If I see no wind past it, I find some excuse to skip that day because that gives me a whole extra week of healing for the price of just one missed day.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe longer indeed! You don't get too many redo s on a failed fusion attempt.

-Craig

p.s. maybe a seat harness is in all our futures (and just like that we're back
on topic ;*) )

isobars wrote:
cgoudie1 wrote:
Be very careful afterwards for as long as they tell you, and wait to see some good solid growth before you get out. It was 6 months before I had enough bone growth to be released for windsurfing.

Maybe longer. My doc said my collarbone was healed thoroughly and ready for dirt bikes again, but he was wrong. First little low-speed tumble and it snapped again. Now, when I'm letting something heal, I look ahead at the forecast past each tempting day. If I see no wind past it, I find some excuse to skip that day because that gives me a whole extra week of healing for the price of just one missed day.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgoudie1 wrote:
maybe a seat harness is in all our futures

THAT may be the best reason to go back to those huge, semi-rigid late-model XT Seats that fully cradled and almost immobilized our backs from tailbone to scapulae.
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dllee



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try a DK race harness..minimal seat and totally comfy
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