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swchandler



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars, why don't you chill a bit on the negativity.
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dllee



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kinda cool.
Last day kiteboarding in 2001, I ran my 9.0 Kitesurfer foil kite with 20 feet lines on my 7'9" Bic surfboard and got way upwind at Alameda and my friends just laughed at the sight.
Still got the setup in the garage today.
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LUCARO



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dllee wrote:
Kinda cool.
Last day kiteboarding in 2001, I ran my 9.0 Kitesurfer foil kite with 20 feet lines on my 7'9" Bic surfboard and got way upwind at Alameda and my friends just laughed at the sight.
Still got the setup in the garage today.


20 ft lines or 20 m lines?
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dllee



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually 15 foot lines, but they connect to a bridle that is around 5' or a bit longer since it's a foil kite. The kite handle really slow, so short lines allow for some air time.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks fun, but probably requires good foiling skills, and fairly strong wind. Not sure how strong.
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d0uglass



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found some videos on other foilboarding with handheld wings. Looks like people have been experimenting with this for a while.

Here's someone with a 3.5 m wing that's framed on sticks / rods-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb1XbqxmusY

Duotone (formerly North sails) has a wing that looks to be a hybrid of kite and windsurf technology, with a hard piece of boom to grab, but the rest apparently inflatable. It looks the riders do an upwind foiling tack with it at one point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNPhdFi6X68

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting the vids. I guess I'm just not seeing the benefit compared to the sail attached to the board. Looks like it's more work handling the sail without being anchored to the board, no harness seems like it would fatigue the arms. The windfoilers look like their having a better time.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

d0uglass wrote:
Looks fun, but probably requires good foiling skills, and fairly strong wind. Not sure how strong.
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LUCARO



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dcharlton wrote:
Thanks for posting the vids. I guess I'm just not seeing the benefit compared to the sail attached to the board. Looks like it's more work handling the sail without being anchored to the board, no harness seems like it would fatigue the arms. The windfoilers look like their having a better time.

DC


I think the advantage is you do not need to learn how to windsurf.

Re arm fatigue. With foiling once you get up you need minimal power to keep going so perhaps they just depower the wing by making it more horizontal. But there are levels of fitness too, it might be fine for Robby to foil sans harness, but it wouldn't work for me for very long
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DW



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are intended to get SUP foils airborne and make downwind foiling waves easier, with more freedom to surf unhindered by a kite or sails limitations.

It turns out they are so easy, their use is expanding to just monkeying around in waves when itís a choppy blown out mess.

The Duotone is designed by Ken Winner.

If you donít SUP foil, itís not for you at this time.
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