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Learning to gybe before the big 7.0 - only 8 years left!!
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jirvin_4505



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:41 pm    Post subject: Learning to gybe before the big 7.0 - only 8 years left!! Reply with quote

I like the looping thread ... this will be my gybing thread

I have been getting coaching

Iíve got about 8years left.., any chance I may make progress before end of season .,, about 4 weeks left before winter sailing begins

more coaching from Lara at RQYS

Sometimes I feel like the slow learner kid in class I need all the support I can get.


https://youtu.be/xz6MjvOnbTA


Cheers Jeff


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gybing is way overrated. Just go back and forth and enjoy the ride.

Or....if still wanting to learn and all of those 12 step and other multi-step methods seem to be just too much, try Mike Flick's "Throw-Throw- Grab & Go" method. Can be found somewhere in these threads. You need to be trying it in lots of wind at first in my opinion. YMMV.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Master the non planing jibe first. Get the board turned around and you will come out clew first. Don't fall in. I know lots of good sailors and they would never be able to plane a jibe with a kit like that through those conditions. Don't feel bad.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

awesome thread title!
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jirvin_4505



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

westender wrote:
Master the non planing jibe first. Get the board turned around and you will come out clew first. Don't fall in. I know lots of good sailors and they would never be able to plane a jibe with a kit like that through those conditions. Don't feel bad.


Yep been concentrating on the lightwind gybes for a while. Not coping well with the transition to short board planing gybes

Some recent practice.... crap footwork!!


https://youtu.be/P6Ww9siK2mA

https://youtu.be/BAlQ_yGZ0HI

Cheers Jeff
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have faith in you!

Hey, if you can swing it, maybe spend a week in Bonaire. Practicing this in the bayís vast amount of thigh-deep water saves enormous amounts of energy. Blow a jibe ... just stand up, step on your board, and try it again. Practicing in water over your head is way more tiring, so takes much more time, in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justall wrote:
I have faith in you!

Hey, if you can swing it, maybe spend a week in Bonaire. Practicing this in the bayís vast amount of thigh-deep water saves enormous amounts of energy. Blow a jibe ... just stand up, step on your board, and try it again. Practicing in water over your head is way more tiring, so takes much more time, in my opinion.


Thanks justall

Iím in sunny Qld Australia. Keep saying to the wife we need a holiday

I do have a few flatwater shallow locations that I go to practice between coaching sessions

Making a big effort to have some improvements this season.
Lots of gym and weight loss during the winter break

Focus on lifting my pbs. Did a couple of 44km days recently plus improved my 1 hours and nautical mile speeds

The lack of gybes has me doing 1/2 as much sailing as my mates. The do 70 plus kms in the same session. I get a lot more water start practice
Laughing

So for past 3 weeks itís been 2 lesson sessions a week and committed practice inbetween (lightwind and planing wind) - back at work has slowed me down a little.

Thanks for the faith... reckon Iím going to make it happen

Cheers Jeff
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PeconicPuffin



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: Learning to gybe before the big 7.0 Reply with quote

You're getting good coaching. Lara is primarily focused on getting you sailing faster and smoother, which will make it much easier for you to have a good jibe entry. Smooth speed is the first requirement for planing jibes. Getting your body in more of a "7" shape, with straight or nearly straight arms and legs, body hiked out over the water, sail power through the harness not your arms. Fly across the water.

I strongly suggest you get ahold of Dasher's "12 Step Jibe" video, either on DVD or you can find bits of it online. Focus on how he's sailing before his set up phase, and his set up phase, and his entry. Don't worry about the foot transition and sail flip so much at this point. Your nonplaning jibe work (smart that you're doing it!) will help you build those fundamentals.

Work on both the nonplaning and planing jibes...let the wind determine which you practice. If it's blowing five knots, that's enough to work on pivot jibes.




jirvin_4505 wrote:


more coaching from Lara at RQYS

https://youtu.be/xz6MjvOnbTA

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kevinkan wrote:
awesome thread title!


Yea, I like it also, learning to jibe while your still 6 YO or under.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not clear (to me) whether you hit 70 in 8 years or are about 70 now, but either way ... don't sell your longevity short. At 75 I'm still learning something every windy day, and except for stage 4 cancer and its dozen heavy drugs I'd still be far outlasting most kids 1/2 to 1/3 my age, according to their claimed and observed endurance.

A solid, reliable waterstart is indispensable, whereas solid planing jibing skills add primarily TOW and maybe more comfortable winter sailing.

And thanks for the plug, windward, but there's neither an "L" nor a "U" in Fick. Very Happy

Mike \m/
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