Foil Jibing - what is your preferred technique?

[d0uglass]

Since Kevin posted this thread I made my first foiling jibe! It was a step jibe. It's at 2:28 on the video here-

http://jimbodouglass.blogspot.com/2019/05/a-foiling-jibe.html

I haven't tried duck or carve jibes on the foil yet. On regular windsurf gear I would give myself a B+ in step jibes, a C- in duck jibes, and F in carve jibes because I don't think I've ever actually tried to delay switching my feet until the whole rest of the jibe was done.

[dllee]

How long and/or how many days have you foiled.
I'm on 2 years, day no. 16.

[grantmac017]

I haven't counted my foil sessions, probably +150 with most in very marginal conditions or else big enough chop that I had to "terrain follow". I'm using the 1st generation slingshot which I'll be upgrading once I find a deal on the 76cm. Everyone agrees the original isn't not exactly an easy foil.

I've done a few gybes where I just kissed the wave tops but maintained speed. The best of them I had my new front foot next to the opposite strap before flipping (step gybe) with a little clew first broad reach to restabilize. Any time I stepped forward of the strap I'd bury the nose. So the trim is quite different from a regular step gybe.

I think the wide formula board has advantages and disadvantages. You have quite a bit of room to place your new front foot towards centerline but at the same distance from the center of lift. This think is critical for a flying gybe.
On the other hand with the relatively narrow boards I'm using there isn't much shifting of the rear foot required to initiate the gybe.

I'm working on flipping the sail earlier than my feet but absolutely zero success so far. The carve tends to speed up and I get behind it. I think once I figure it out though either this or the duck will be my preferred technique. I'm not racing and big sails have limited appeal.

[dllee]

Seems like windsurfing, a duck is easier to learn because it NEEDS to be thrown early.
In 1984, I could duck 50% 2 years before I could plane thru regular jibes 50%.
Day 16 on foil, just too windy at Berk. Yesterday, guys 20 lbs. lighter than me were foiling on the same size sail and I planed 95% of the time on a 110 freeride board.
I just gotta cut out windsurfing for a week so I can learn to foil jibe.

[dllee]

Maybe 3 weeks.

[kevinkan]

congrats d0uglass on your first jibe!

one of the things that helped me with jibing is going directly into the front strap on the foot switch, especially on the step jibe.

one of the things i do (and I think most are taught to do) during a regular windsurfing step jibe is to step forward when we switch our feet. this keeps our weight forward and the board planing. however, if you do this on a foiling, you likely just drive the board/nose down into the water. foilboards have the footstraps in the correct position for foiling, so getting your feet in the correct position for foiling and continuing foiling is important.

for foiling ducks, i originally ducked early, but now i kind of realize you can do it whenever. sometimes late, sometimes early.

[kevinkan]

[dllee]

You think 2 weeks?
Problem could be I foil once every 5 windsurfing days, so learning the foil jibe might take a while. This last 3 days, 5.3 and 92, 84, and 92 liter boards. Too windy to foil. Or need to screw in 7 bolts and drag the foil all the way to the dock. Remember, I can barely walk.

[Gwarn]

I guess this question is for dlee. What do you mean it's too windy to go foiling?

[dllee]

Powered 5.3 with boards as small as 54 wide and 84 liters.
Sails as small as 4.0 still get "exciting" when foiling in 14-23 mph Berkeley breezes.
I have my straps all forward, foil fully back, stab setting to slightly lift the stab to drive the main foil down.
Can easily fly with a 4.0 in 12 mph breeze but gets scary when gusts hit 22.
A 5 meter sail has been smooth with breezes of 7-15 mph on the Berkeley meter.
CSC foilers on 6-7 meter sails.