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U2U2U2
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| dllee wrote: | Twins turn like a single, off the rail curve, rocker, footplacement, and fin [s].
When all the factors are added together, you can make any config work almost the same.
There are 4 fin guns.
There are single fin tiny wave boards. |
This post is nothing but generalities . No way a single can perform like Tri
windsurf boards are very different to surfboards so what is working on A surfboard may not translate quite so well to a windsurfer, particularly when it is not actually on a wave and going upwind which is a lot of the time. |
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dllee
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, your surfboard and windsurf experience can tell you everything you need to know, especially about wings, rocker and curves. |
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grantmac017
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| capetonian wrote: | | I used to have the LS Quad 95, then the Cube 98 and now the Cube 95. Steve Thorpe's advice sounds good, as the LS Quad did not like big front fins. I ended up swapping the 9 cm front fins it came with for 8 cm front fins on the advice of Pascal from Quatro, and preferred the smaller front fins. I never tried it as a twin fin, but the current Cube 95 is great in light conditions (5.2 or 5.5) as a twin with 16.5 cm rear fins. For anything less than 5.2, I prefer it as a quad. |
Care to contrast the Quad vs twin feel? What conditions (onshore?)? |
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manuel
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capetonian
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| grantmac017 wrote: | | capetonian wrote: | | I used to have the LS Quad 95, then the Cube 98 and now the Cube 95. Steve Thorpe's advice sounds good, as the LS Quad did not like big front fins. I ended up swapping the 9 cm front fins it came with for 8 cm front fins on the advice of Pascal from Quatro, and preferred the smaller front fins. I never tried it as a twin fin, but the current Cube 95 is great in light conditions (5.2 or 5.5) as a twin with 16.5 cm rear fins. For anything less than 5.2, I prefer it as a quad. |
Care to contrast the Quad vs twin feel? What conditions (onshore?)? |
I mainly sail in cross onshore to cross shore conditions with this board. For closer to straight onshore conditions I prefer my FSW board.
As a twin the Cube reacts faster/turns easier, which allows for very rounded C shape turns (e.g. heading more vertically back up the wave). The negative is that the twin is easier to slide out on the top turn than the quad set up. So big spray turns are harder (for those fast banking open shoulder spray turns nothing beats a thruster). In overpowered & choppy conditions I find that the twin setup can "lose it" on a bottom turn easier than the quad set up. I don't like twin set ups in over powered conditions. |
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grantmac017
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So the very small fronts kind of moderate it without losing much speed or the overall character? Sounds like the twin might jump a little better being higher out of the water.
Our "good" days are all cross/cross-on.
Are those 16.5cm the stock rears? |
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manuel
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Correct, small fronts (a twin with safety grip) make it easier to recover mistakes or water state imperfections. The faster things go the more it makes sense.
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westender
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| My sailing shadow is usually on a tri and me on 1 fin. Performance is basically the same even when we switch boards. Isn't the multi fin craze more of a fad or marketing strategy? Sure complicates things??? |
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dllee
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Criteria.
Emphasis on wave face turns favor multis.
Straight line and long smooth turns single |
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U2U2U2
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The Quatro in question should be. a 2011 or 12. It’s amoung the first production cobra built Quads.
At its introduction Quatro had 2 twins, the Tempo and Rhythm. After Review of the original Quatro specs what the board is supposed to do, etc, I found no mention that it’s recommended as a twin.
The OP questions relate not to a single , nor tri, nor twin.
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