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mac
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| mat-ty wrote: | | mac wrote: | I guess Matty has dropped the “no quid pro quo” talking point, and he doesn’t understand that refusing to give Ukraine $397 million of appropriated funds unless they help his campaign is extortion and bribery.
Sad. The failure of our education system—and the failure of Matty and NW’s attempts to think. |
You're a moron....Never any threats of withholding anything, and the money was sent..........hhahahhahha keep dreaming you stupid old man..
Three star witnesses and not one has a shred of evidence.....a real judge would have tossed this non-sense in 5 seconds..
Theater for morons... |
The money was sent on September 11—after the whistle was blown on August 12 and Lindsay Graham had a hissy fit.
Can’t tell time either. Taught in first grade. Lying for shit-stained peanuts. |
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real-human
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| Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| mat-ty wrote: | | boggsman1 wrote: | Larry and Curley : you guys can continue to yuck it up... I took 1998 quite seriously even though the offenses were not impeachable .. But the reality is the grifter will be the 4th US president to get impeached..
Andrew Jackson
Richard Nixon
Bill Clinton
Donald J T-Rumpq |
And it will be the very first to be 100% partisan!!!!!!!!!!
We know how much libtards like your stains.... |
you are dumber than a rock clintons was so partisan and again you are just to stupid to know that.
but this one is over severe national security issues. even Nixons was not.
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mat-ty
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| Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| MalibuGuru wrote: | | Everyone knows this is going nowhere. They ought to just negotiate with Trump. 5 more years of idiot Democrats obstruction. |
Including Barr who made it very clear the other day that dems are completely out of control.....
Assholes like Mac are fine with breaking all the rules and ignoring precedent and laws as long as it hurts Trump.......scum to the core and a complete fraud.
Lets go back and listen to all of past presidents conversations....If obamas private conversation had been leaked Macs head would have been exploding....
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mat-ty
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| Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| real-human wrote: | | mat-ty wrote: | | boggsman1 wrote: | Larry and Curley : you guys can continue to yuck it up... I took 1998 quite seriously even though the offenses were not impeachable .. But the reality is the grifter will be the 4th US president to get impeached..
Andrew Jackson
Richard Nixon
Bill Clinton
Donald J T-Rumpq |
And it will be the very first to be 100% partisan!!!!!!!!!!
We know how much libtards like your stains.... |
you are dumber than a rock clintons was so partisan and again you are just to stupid to know that.
but this one is over severe national security issues. even Nixons was not. |
I rarely respond or read your incoherent nonsense because you are a fucking moron.
35 democrats joined republicans to impeach Clinton...so STFU you stupid know nothing liberal retard... |
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LHDR
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| Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| mat-ty wrote: | | Assholes like Mac are fine with breaking all the rules and ignoring precedent and laws as long as it hurts Trump... scum to the core and a complete fraud. |
mat-ty, to some extent, it's fascinating that many of the things you are saying are precisely the opposite of what's going on. Like here, when you should say "Republicans and Trump are fine with breaking all the rules and ignoring precedent and laws as long as it hurts Democrats ... scum to the core and complete frauds."
| mac wrote: | I guess Matty has dropped the "no quid pro quo" talking point, and he doesn't understand that refusing to give Ukraine $397 million of appropriated funds unless they help his campaign is extortion and bribery.
Sad. The failure of our education system... |
I'm not sure the education system is to blame. Perhaps it's a ubiquitous human trait that close to half the population can be readily swayed by malicious characters? |
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real-human
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| Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| mat-ty wrote: | | real-human wrote: | | mat-ty wrote: | | boggsman1 wrote: | Larry and Curley : you guys can continue to yuck it up... I took 1998 quite seriously even though the offenses were not impeachable .. But the reality is the grifter will be the 4th US president to get impeached..
Andrew Jackson
Richard Nixon
Bill Clinton
Donald J T-Rumpq |
And it will be the very first to be 100% partisan!!!!!!!!!!
We know how much libtards like your stains.... |
you are dumber than a rock clintons was so partisan and again you are just to stupid to know that.
but this one is over severe national security issues. even Nixons was not. |
I rarely respond or read your incoherent nonsense because you are a fucking moron.
35 democrats joined republicans to impeach Clinton...so STFU you stupid know nothing liberal retard... |
hey idiot find the number of prominent republicans that have said Trump is a criminal, again 1000 former prosecutors have chimed in with just the light details in the mueller report that trump is a criminal.
do give us the list when Clinton was president of dems to the hundreds would have claimed so. BTW most prosecutors are republicans.
here is the dem votes...
and this is apples to oranges or a false equivalency of the severity of the crimes. Right-wingers right now are arguing a president can lie and it is not a high crime. In fact they are saying a president can even commit obstruction of justice over ntional security issues and that is not impechable.
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| LHDR wrote: | | mat-ty wrote: | | Assholes like Mac are fine with breaking all the rules and ignoring precedent and laws as long as it hurts Trump... scum to the core and a complete fraud. |
mat-ty, to some extent, it's fascinating that many of the things you are saying are precisely the opposite of what's going on. Like here, when you should say "Republicans and Trump are fine with breaking all the rules and ignoring precedent and laws as long as it hurts Democrats ... scum to the core and complete frauds."
| mac wrote: | I guess Matty has dropped the "no quid pro quo" talking point, and he doesn't understand that refusing to give Ukraine $397 million of appropriated funds unless they help his campaign is extortion and bribery.
Sad. The failure of our education system... |
I'm not sure the education system is to blame. Perhaps it's a ubiquitous human trait that close to half the population can be readily swayed by malicious characters? |
Matty’s just a liar like Trump. He spouts one lie—then another. But his spelling is constantly amusing. |
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real-human
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| Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:46 am Post subject: |
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trump record setting of convictions of his absolute top people...
https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/roger-stone-s-conviction-a-warning-for-gordon-sondland-73576005569
Roger Stone’s conviction a warning for Gordon Sondland
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Former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner, who was in the courtroom every day of the Roger Stone trial, joins Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss how Stone’s conviction on all 7 counts of witness tampering, obstruction, and lying to Congress might inform what Gordon Sondland decides to do in his public testimony next week. |
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| mat-ty wrote: | | real-human wrote: | | mat-ty wrote: | | boggsman1 wrote: | Larry and Curley : you guys can continue to yuck it up... I took 1998 quite seriously even though the offenses were not impeachable .. But the reality is the grifter will be the 4th US president to get impeached..
Andrew Jackson
Richard Nixon
Bill Clinton
Donald J T-Rumpq |
And it will be the very first to be 100% partisan!!!!!!!!!!
We know how much libtards like your stains.... |
you are dumber than a rock clintons was so partisan and again you are just to stupid to know that.
but this one is over severe national security issues. even Nixons was not. |
I rarely respond or read your incoherent nonsense because you are a fucking moron.
35 democrats joined republicans to impeach Clinton...so STFU you stupid know nothing liberal retard... |
here is a republican who left the right wing party because of reading the mueller report.
https://news.yahoo.com/rep-justin-amash-turned-on-trump-will-his-michigan-district-follow-him-or-turn-on-him-110017880.html
Rep. Justin Amash turned on Trump. Will his Michigan district follow him — or turn on him?
| Quote: | If you want to understand how impeachment is being seen by actual Americans, there may be no better place to go than Grand Rapids, Mich.
In part that’s because the area around Grand Rapids, comprising Michigan’s Third Congressional District, is one of only about two dozen districts in the nation to vote for both Barack Obama and Donald Trump. In part it’s because the Third Congressional District, with its urban core, suburban sprawl and outlying rural farmland, neatly encapsulates the broader political geography of the state Trump won by the slimmest margin in 2016: just 10,704 votes.
But mostly it’s because the incumbent congressman, Rep. Justin Amash, has transformed himself into a living, breathing impeachment Rorschach Test.
Amash, a 39-year-old Palestinian-American, has always been independent with a lowercase “i.” Elected to Congress as a Republican in 2010 after earning the nickname “Mr. No” during his one term in the state legislature, the doctrinaire libertarian co-founded the House Freedom Caucus and continued to vote against new taxes and spending in Washington while also defying the GOP leadership on civil-liberties issues such as government surveillance and marijuana legalization. Those principled stands made him unpopular with his more establishment colleagues and kept him from ascending the Republican ranks and landing important committee assignments.
In July, however, after reading the Mueller Report, Amash became a bona fide, capital-“I” Independent. He tweeted that Trump had, in fact, “engaged in impeachable conduct” and wrote a Washington Post op-ed headlined “Our politics is in a partisan death spiral. That’s why I’m leaving the GOP.” |
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Madd-dy here ya go here is how partisan the right wing are... again not looking for facts,
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2019/11/16/public-impeachment-hearing-historian-roundup-071249
t’s easy to call an impeachment “historic,” but what kind of history did we really see this week? Most of us couldn’t answer that in real time, but POLITICO Magazine tracked down the tiny handful of Americans who can: The historians and legal analysts who specialize in the rare, high-stakes process of impeachment itself.
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This week we invited a group of them to watch the Congressional hearings with an eye to what actually made history. They saw quite a bit of it unfold in the hearings on President Donald Trump’s conduct around Ukraine, and the conduct of the Congress looking into it.
First, one historian noted that the way we consumed the news this week was completely unprecedented: Unlike any previous impeachment, we were all able to follow along with the inquiry as it unfolded and witnesses revealed new information. Second, never before, two of the experts pointed out, has an impeachment turned directly on matters of national security. By any normal standard that should strip the domestic politics out of the proceedings—except, as another historian pointed out,the Republicans in Congress have chosen to act as his legal defense rather than as serious fact-finders about his conduct, which is another historical outlier.
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