Covid19 Closures to Date for The Gorge

[dvCali]

[hilton08]

but you can still play golf in Oregon.

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[windfind]

Hi Gang,

I thought some data might lighten up the forum ruckus a bit.

First the graphic below shows the latest national data for confirmed positives and deaths.

Next, there is a lot of talk about how there are hints some places, like San Francisco, that started social distancing very early, are seeing signs of "Flattening the Curve"

Some people apparently have never looked at the Imperial College model curves that got Trumps attention. So they are concluding we are nearly out of the woods.

First, check out the DO NOTHING Curve different DISTANCING curves. Much of the USA is approximating the BLUE curve which indeed is flatter.

But now toss your MAG cap or your Biden cap in the trash and take a look at the Imperial College model curves while wearing your critical thinking cap and draw your own conclusions.

Next here is today's data for Hood River and Klickitat counties that border the Gorge's corridor.

I have also attached the most recent data on Oregon and Washington by county.

Lastly... some people seem to have the idea that their being out on the river is harmless. And it is.... to them. The problem is that looking at the OR. and WA map above you can see that there are counties and cities near us that have far higher % of positives. And some of these people, especially the younger ones, are unknowingly asymptomatic spreaders of the virus.

So when they get the word that Gorge people are sailing/kiting at certain sites they may come here to sail. And when they use our gas stations etc. they may spread the disease. Yep, The Hook is open for windsurfing but the opening only applies to residents per the Port Authority.

So be smart, if you find one of those places where we can still sail do NOT post it on these forums.


Mike Godsey

[U2U2U2]

Mike your quote:



So when they get the word that Gorge people are sailing/kiting at certain sites they may come here to sail. And when they use our gas stations etc. they may spread the disease. Yep, The Hook is open for windsurfing but the opening only applies to residents per the Port Authority.

So be smart, if you find one of those places where we can still sail do NOT post it on these forums.

My question

Question, how does the Port Authority , have Jurisdiction over a Governors State Order?

[Bond1]

Unless something additional has been issued by the governor's office since the original order issued March 23rd, leaving the Hook open doesn't violate the order if social distancing can be maintained.

[U2U2U2]

Governor of Oregon wrote


Wording is: “Individuals are directed to minimize travel, other than essential travel to or from home, residence, or workplace; for obtaining or providing food, shelter, essential consumer needs, health care, emergency services; for the care of family members, household members, elderly persons, minors, dependents, persons with disabilities, or other vulnerable persons.”

To violate the order is a Class C misdemeanor citation, this carries a penalty of up to 30 days in jail a $1250 fine or both.
I think it’s Executive Order , NO.20-12, about 10pages. The essential travel part about comes from Kate addressing questions on it.
How would windsurfing fall into essential travel ? Any possibility of contact, gas pump, number pad, car breaks down, accident, increases the likehood of being infected.
( 30 day in Jail would be a eye opening experience , without having been there myself, I read a lot )

[Bond1]

[U2U2U2]

[isobars]

These are all valid points, on both sides, IMO. HOWEVER ... major flaws in this whole process seem pretty apparent to me:
1. The CV math models have proven to be pretty ridiculous, just like in that OTHER math model doomsday scenario that threatens to dwarf the impacts of this "bug" (by comparison). Do we really want to destroy the economy based on models? Do we really want to repeat this with every new coronavirus season? And does anyone this side of Zeke Emanuel, architecture of the Affordable Care Act, believe we must stay in our homes for at least another 18 months?

2. Keeping liquor stores open makes us non-alcoholics (anyone who considers booze essential has a serious drinking problem) roll our eyes and take all these precautions less seriously than we maybe should.

3. We could save so MANY more lives if we were forced forever to stop driving over 20 mph, smoking, eating crap manufactured by man in factories from what was once actually food, and sitting for more than one hour per day.

4. No one knows better than we in this forum that there's infinitely more to windsurfing that just "exercise". I.E., "Sorry, Offisa Pup, but running or calisthenics or freaking yoga just don't cut it.

5. To many of us and to varying degrees, WSing is far more "essential" than family, church, career, money, food, life-affecting medical treatment, and/or sleep, over days to decades.

6. Seriously? ARRESTING and jailing people for mowing a lawn, sitting in their cars listening to a sermon, SUPing alone on the ocean, or playing with their own children in an otherwise empty park ... especially while letting heavily armed drug dealers loose among the public?

And not only are those just for starters, but most of them also apply for tens or hundreds of thousands of families like mine for whom the net personal impacts of CV are positive.

[Bond1]