| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993
Posts: 10588
|
 Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:37 pm Post subject: |
 |
|
| isobars, again, I guess we'll find out find out how many folks here think that I'm wrong and that you are right. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
coachg
Joined: 10 Sep 2000
Posts: 3551
|
| Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| isobars wrote: | | If you think I'm going to type that much for each of the items on that list, you have me confused with Mister McGrath. |
You heard the man swchandler; do as I say, not as I do. I can't be bothered but you should. Bawahahahah. 
Coachg |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999
Posts: 20935
|
| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:09 am Post subject: |
|
|
Think, schmink. It's all about facts, yet you guys demand Trump's tax returns above and beyond what the law provides for no reason other than a nit-picking, unsupported-accusation-laden witch hunt. We can all see that process from here:
Pelosi/Schumer/Schiff: "Hey, Trump cheated".
Trump and the IRS: "Where?"
"We ain't gonna tell you. We'll let the voters decide."
Pelosi, dancing Snoopy's happy dance on Jan 20 'til her face cracks: "I'M POTUS! I'M POTUS. BY GOD, WITHOUT LIFTING A FINGER, I'M POTUS! Who needs elections?"
| swchandler wrote: | | isobars, again, I guess we'll find out find out how many folks here think that I'm wrong and that you are right. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993
Posts: 10588
|
| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Sooner or later, Donald Trump's tax returns, or maybe Trump Organization's financial records, will be revealed, and he won't be able to shield himself from the truth. Whether he is criminally indicted and prosecuted might be seen as highly questionable, I'm sure that it will be very embarrassing when his dishonesty is laid bare for the public to see.
Trump has so much to keep undercover and hidden. Why are literally all his relationships of all kinds protected by non-discloser agreements? I don't think that honest folks are so paranoid that they have rely on them on such a massive scale. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
isobans
Joined: 08 Aug 2010
Posts: 82
|
| Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Regardless of what it's called, the extreme left's stated and sometimes already demonstrated goals of open borders, free everything, abolishing single-family housing zoning (i.e. letting apartment and public housing and businesses flood the burbs at will), climate insanity, gun confiscation beginning with rifles that have handgrips and external magazines, urban and sometimes suburban rioting, abolishment of private healthcare insurance, telling us what what we can and can't eat and drive and read and watch, racism such as mandatory hiring and schooling based on skin color, weakening our personal and local and national defense structures, government-controlled wealth distribution, guaranteed income (so why work?), erasing student loan obligations, all-out blind support of unions, infanticide at Mommy Dearest's whim and the taxpayer's expense, sham arrests for the sake of imagery (freeing rioters and other violent offenders without bail the minute they're "arrested"), calling arson and beatdowns "victimless crimes" ... it just goes on and on and on. The far left hates our country's present ideals, and their written and spoken plans prove they want to destroy it and replace it with a new Marxist society. And even though I was born and raised in rural Alabama in the '40s, '50s and '60s, including finishing high school in Montgomery in 1961, I haven't been back there in decades. In just one year in Montgomery and a trip through it a few years later, I personally saw a nighttime KKK march through a neighborhood, MLK's subsequent march into Montgomery from Selma, and Negroes/colored people (those were the preferred term for them back then) forcing whites off the downtown sidewalks on a daily basis. But Rebel flags? Very rare back then.
OF COURSE it's the woman's right to choose ... WHETHER TO SPREAD HER LEGS. Beyond that point biology takes over. Neither she nor Obama has the right to let a viable newborn die on the slab just because Mommy Dearest no longer wants it.
Brucie loves me some isobar |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
vientomas
Joined: 25 Apr 2000
Posts: 2343
|
| Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:29 am Post subject: |
|
|
Isoangry lives in a Fux "News" fantasy land where the US is a blaze with violent protests. While the reality is:
"The vast majority of the thousands of Black Lives Matter protests this summer have been peaceful, with more than 93% involving no serious harm to people or damage to property, according to a new report tracking political violence in the United States.
But the US government has taken a “heavy-handed approach” to the demonstrations, with authorities using force “more often than not” when they are present, the report found.
And there has been a troubling trend of violence and armed intimidation by individual actors, including dozens of car-ramming attacks targeting demonstrators across the country."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/nearly-all-black-lives-matter-protests-are-peaceful-despite-trump-narrative-report-finds |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999
Posts: 20935
|
| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I didn't catch her name or whether she was running for governor of Oregon of mayor of Portland (and I couldn't care less), but an apparently serious contender is some idiot who is running as an Antifa supporter and member.
SERIOUSLY.
Not so seriously, her campaign slogan may as well be "Burn, Baby, Burn". Prophetically, the world's largest bookstore is on Burnside Street. It was the only reason I ever went to Portland; thank goodness for their online presence and Amazon. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999
Posts: 17750
Location: Berkeley, California
|
| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Continuing signs of dementia and make-up-shit-disease from Mike Fick. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999
Posts: 17750
Location: Berkeley, California
|
| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I'm thinking that those on the right who can read won't.
| Quote: | By
Mark Bray
Mark Bray is a historian of human rights, terrorism and political radicalism in modern Europe at Rutgers University. He is the author of "Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook."
September 11, 2020 at 6:28 a.m. PDT
Add to list
Short for “anti-fascist,” the label “antifa” gained notoriety in 2017 over the course of several high-profile conflicts between left-wing protesters and the far right in Berkeley, Calif.; Portland, Ore.; Charlottesville; and elsewhere. But antifa has been a staple of radical politics across Europe, Latin America and beyond for decades. Even in the United States, this tradition of militant antifascism has a long history under the banner of the Anti-Racist Action network. Despite this history, and a litany of journalistic “explainers” over the past three years, antifa remains largely misunderstood. Here are some of the most popular myths.
Myth No. 1
Antifa is a single organization.
On May 31, President Trump tweeted, “The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization.” Attorney General William P. Barr echoed his sentiments by arguing that antifa is “a revolutionary group that is interested in some form of socialism.” Right-wing figure Chuck Callesto even claimed that Sen. Rand Paul intended to “SUBPOENA ANTIFA plane records, hotel records, all travel records & all funding.”
But Trump cannot designate “ANTIFA” as a terrorist organization because antifa is not an organization. Rather, it is a politics of revolutionary opposition to the far right. There are antifa groups, such as Rose City Antifa in Portland and NYC Antifa, just as there are feminist groups, such as Code Pink. But neither antifa nor feminism is itself an organization. You cannot subpoena an idea or a movement. That’s not to say that antifa doesn’t exist, of course. Antifa is “very real,” as Rep. Jim Jordan has argued, but not in the monolithic, hierarchical way in which he and many other Americans are accustomed to thinking of political associations.
Myth No. 2
Antifa masterminds violence at Black Lives Matter protests.
Police stations were burned, squad cars were destroyed, and property was damaged across the country after the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis in May. Days later, Trump was quick to blame the violence on “ANTIFA and the Radical Left.” The president also promoted a far-right conspiracy theory that a 75-year-old racial justice protester in Buffalo who was shoved to the ground by police, fracturing his skull, “could be an ANTIFA provocateur.” Rudolph W. Giuliani concurred, claiming that “antifa sprang into action and in a flash hijacked the protests into vicious, brutal riots.”
But neither the Justice Department, the FBI nor the press have found evidence to corroborate the grandiose allegation that the most widespread and significant political upheaval this country has seen in half a century was masterminded by one shadowy organization. Not even in Portland. Antifa groups are simply not numerous enough, nor their memberships large enough, nor their politics influential enough to have achieved such massive destruction. Militant anti-fascist groups heavily vet potential members to prevent infiltration from law enforcement or the far right. Some don’t open their ranks to new members at all. Significant investments of time and energy are expected. Such high barriers to entry necessarily keep numbers low.
Myth No. 3
Antifa is affiliated with the Democratic Party.
In August, a fake antifa website began to redirect users to Joe Biden’s campaign site. Though it was clearly a ploy to associate the Democratic Party with antifa, right wingers seized upon the apparent conspiracy. Speaking about the Democrats that same day, Trump claimed that “in my book, it’s virtually part of their campaign, antifa.” According to Ann Coulter, the Democrats are “the Antifa Party.” And columnists have argued that “antifa riots may be part of [a] Democrat power grab” or even that “antifa is the militant wing of the Democratic Party.”
Not only is there no evidence to support such allegations — which are more of an effort to associate liberalism with lawlessness than anything else — but Democratic leaders have routinely condemned antifa and political violence more broadly. For example, in 2017 Nancy Pelosi denounced “the violent actions of people calling themselves antifa” after destructive protests against right-wing commentator Milo Yiannopoulos in Berkeley. When a reporter recently asked Joe Biden, “Do you condemn antifa?,” he responded, “Yes, I do.”
Nor is there any antifa love affair with the Democrats. The vast majority of antifa militants are radical anti-capitalists who oppose the Democratic Party. Some may hold their noses and vote for Biden in November, but many are anarchists who don’t vote at all.
Myth No. 4
Antifa is funded by liberal financiers like George Soros.
Right-wing conspiracy theorists have alleged that egalitarian protest movements, such as Occupy Wall Street or the women’s marches, have been secretly funded for many years by liberal financiers like George Soros. Trump is among those who have accused Soros of funding antifa, while other conservatives, such as Rep. Ken Buck, have dog-whistled this anti-Semitic trope by asking in more general terms “who is funding these violent riots.” Similarly, Rand Paul asked, after being confronted by protesters in D.C.: “Who paid for their hotel rooms? Who flew them in?”
There is no evidence that Soros or any other 1 percenter is bankrolling antifa groups. Receiving financial support from a billionaire would be anathema to their anti-capitalist politics. Like most anarchist, anti-authoritarian or radical groups, antifa organizations don’t have much money at their disposal. What they do have generally comes from members or occasional solidarity fundraisers. Unlike political parties, unions or nongovernmental organizations, they don’t require significant funds. The International Anti-Fascist Defense Fund collects small donations primarily for legal and medical support, but that hardly constitutes the moneyed boogeyman that Republicans have conjured.
Myth No. 5
Antifascists are the 'real fascists.'
Recently Barr described antifa as deploying “fascistic” tactics, and Donald Trump Jr. characterized the movement as having moved “to the book burning phase.” The Internet is awash with articles about how “antifa are the real fascists,” as the Spectator’s Toby Young put it, or the “brownshirts” of the Democratic Party, in radio host Michael Savage’s words. After Charlottesville, Trump called antifascists the “alt-left,” a term that did not stick. These portrayals are often supported by references to antifascists’ disruption of the events of their (far-right) political opponents — a strategy famously deployed by fascists.
Indeed, antifascists and fascists have one thing in common: an illiberal disdain for the confines of mainstream politics. In every other way they are worlds apart. As opposed to their far-right adversaries, antifascists are feminist, anti-racist, anti-capitalists who seek to abolish prisons and police. Comparing antifascists to fascists only makes a bit of sense if one divorces the tactics from the underlying views that animate them. Such comparisons stem from the misguided horseshoe theory: that ultimately political extremes meet. But fascists are the real fascists because they pursue a fascist political agenda. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999
Posts: 20935
|
| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:45 am Post subject: |
|
|
• Paid damage insurance claims exceeding a billion dollars.
• Hundreds of cops injured, some permanently, several murdered.
• Many thousands of businesses destroyed, many permanently.
• Peaceful protesters, shop owners, passersby, rescuers, and media personnel beaten severely and sometimes murdered.
• Violent criminals being ignored while people defending their own lives legally are arrested and prosecuted.
All verified by videos, hospital records, funerals, and insurance company records.
Peaceful protests, my ass. The Left's' stupid denial of all this threatens me, yourselves, your kids, the USA, and the world far more than climate change, Christianity, Trump, Fox News, and capitalism COMBINED ever could or will. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum
|
|
|
Search
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Register
