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https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/rep-greene-gathered-the-kindling-of-insurrection-then-she-dropped-the-match-on-jan-6-challengers-argue-to-disqualify-her/
Rep. Greene ‘Gathered the Kindling’ of Insurrection, Then She ‘Dropped the Match’ on Jan. 6, Challengers Argue to Disqualify Her
| Quote: | As a daylong hearing seeking to disqualify Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) drew to a close, an attorney for her challengers argued that the Donald Trump loyalist said the “quiet part out loud” in an interview where she spoke frankly about opposing the peaceful transfer of power to President Joe Biden.
“You have her own words in context against nothing, not even a real denial,” remarked attorney Andrew Celli, a founding partner of the firm Emery Celli Brinckerhoff Abady Ward & Maazel LLP.
For the better part of the day on Friday, Celli had been trying to persuade an administrative law judge in Atlanta not to allow Greene on the ballot under the 14th Amendment’s prohibitions on elected officials participating or aiding in insurrection. The disqualification clause applies only to officials who have taken the oath of office, and Greene took hers on Jan. 3, 2021, three days before the attack on the U.S. Capitol.
“The evidence is is very clear that, in fact, Marjorie Taylor Greene, justified, assisted, supported and promoted the insurrection in that window,” Celli charged.
During her daylong questioning, Greene recalled little about her posts on her now-shuttered Twitter account and video interviews in the days leading up to Jan. 6. Greene claimed not to remember much about what she said in those days, and she insisted that the quoted lines had been taken out of context. In one of the clips, she declared frankly: “We can’t allow power to transfer peacefully, like Joe Biden wants, because he didn’t win the election.” She spoke of a “1776 moment” and the Declaration of Independence frequently, though she at one point denied knowing that the latter referred to King George as a “tyrant.” (That sworn testimony sharply contrasted with what Greene told viewers of the pro-Trump TV channel Real America’s Voice: “If you think about what our Declaration of Independence says, it says to overthrow tyrants.”) At one point, Greene claimed that she couldn’t remember whether she urged Trump to impose martial law.
Greene also had accused House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) of a crime punishable by death.
“She’s a traitor to our country,” Greene reportedly wrote in a Facebook post. “She’s guilty of treason. She took an oath to protect the American citizens. She gives aid and comfort to our enemies who illegally invade our land. That’s what treason is.”
As first reported by CNN, Greene’s official account then “liked’ a comment that a “bullet to the head would be quicker.”
In a closing statement, Celli described Greene as an instigator of the riot at the Capitol, and said that while she wasn’t part of the mob that breached the building, she bears responsibility nonetheless.
“Marjorie Taylor Greene comes to this court in this nation and she asks to be a candidate for federal office,” Celli said. “She comes with unclean hands. With her hands, her words, her actions, she was one of several leaders who gathered the kindling, who created the conditions, who made it possible for there to be an explosion of violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6. And then, she dropped the match. Now, she comes into this courtroom and says that she’s surprised and appalled that a fire occurred. Sticks of wood and dry leaves are harmless in and of themselves. In fact, they’re natural. They’re healthy for the environment. Rallies, protestations, objections on the floor: These are all things that are good for the Republic. They are part of our tradition. But when the conditions are dangerous, some people capitalize on those conditions and they add a spark, a flame that causes all of those things to explode into a fire of violence and death.”
Georgians Spell Out "Disqualify Greene" In Front Of The Georgia State Capitol In Support Of The Challenge To Marjorie Taylor Greene's Qualification For The Ballot Under The Insurrection Clause Of The 14th Amendment
Georgians spell out “Disqualify Greene” in front of the Georgia State Capitol in support of the challenge to Marjorie Taylor Greene’s qualification for the ballot under the insurrection Clause Of The 14th Amendment on April 21, 2022 in Atlanta, Georgia. (Photo by Derek White/Getty Images for MoveOn.)
Greene’s attorney James Bopp argued that his client’s alleged assistance to Jan. 6 amounts to little more than protected political speech, which does not reach the high bar for incitement set in the Supreme Court’s precedent of Brandenburg v. Ohio.
“They want to hijack and cancel words like ‘1776,’ the ‘Declaration of Independence,’ ‘Independence Day’ and the American Revolution,” said Bopp, a longtime GOP lawyer who spearheaded the Citizens United litigation. “What about—oh, no—defense of the Second Amendment? If you advocate for defense of the Second Amendment, you’re in favor and in fact are engaging in the violent overthrow of the government of the United States. The implication isn’t right.”
Earlier in the hearing, the court heard Greene’s rallying cry: “We aren’t a people that are going to go quietly into the night,” which a lawyer for her challengers traced to actor Bill Pullman’s soaring speech from the film Independence Day. Celli rolled tape in court on a clip where the fictional U.S. president played by Pullman pronounces that line before repelling an extraterrestrial invasion. Greene gruffly denied taking any inspiration from the blockbuster.
“I don’t view courtrooms and politics as Hollywood, like you do,” Greene told Celli.
Before issuing his findings, Administrative Law Judge Charles R. Beaudrot advised the parties that he will consider their written legal arguments in post-hearing briefings. Beaudrot himself will not determine Greene’s fate, but he will pass on his findings to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R), who will determine whether Greene is “qualified to seek and hold public office. Raffensperger opposed Trump’s baseless voter fraud claims in the 2020 election.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-shakes-head-at-objection-by-marjorie-taylor-greene-s-lawyer-who-claimed-executive-privilege/ar-AAWuNsc?cvid=4867c7c8251b47e6954fa579f1c4de4f&ocid=winp2oct
Judge Shakes Head at Objection by Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Lawyer, Who Claimed ‘Executive Privilege’
| Quote: | Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) testified during a hearing on Friday to determine if she will be disqualified from appearing on this year’s ballot ahead of her reelection bid.
At one point during the hearing, her attorney tried to invoke “executive privilege” when Greene was asked about discussions she had with the Trump administration before the Capitol riot.
It was not sustained.
Greene’s home state of Georgia allows voters to challenge the eligibility of candidates seeking office. In this case, the group is citing the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which states, “No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress…who… shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”
A nonprofit called Free Speech For People say Greene should be kicked off the ballot because she allegedly incited the mob to storm the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Greene was one of the most vocal supporters in Congress of trying to overturn the 2020 presidential election that Donald Trump lost.
At Friday’s hearing, Andrew Celli, a lawyer for the group challenging Greene’s eligibility asked her about a meeting she had at the White House before the Capitol riot.
Related video: Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene appeals ruling seeking to disqualify her from re-election (NBC News)
of the 14th Amendment that says no person shall be a senator or
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“When you discussed that topic – the idea that there should be martial law declared in the United States prior to the inauguration of President Biden,” he began, but was cut off by Greene’s attorney, James Bopp Jr.
“Your Honor, I actually represent the president of the United States and that’s covered by executive privilege. She can’t get into any of those conversations.” he claimed.
“Executive privilege?” Celli said in disbelief. “She’s not a member of the executive and this counsel is here on her behalf, not on Mr. Trump’s behalf – unless there’s something I missed. It’s not a proper objection, Your Honor.”
The judge shook his head.
Celli asked whether she urged Trump to impose martial law.
“I don’t recall,” the congresswoman replied. When pressed, she stated, “I don’t remember.”
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wow, can you imagine a dem not remembering something like telling the trump team to take over the country using marshal law? something as small and insignificant like that? I do not think her main "lies" of I have many people in my staff I do not know who may have posted that....
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mtg-texted-meadows-about-trump-declaring-martial-law-new-texts-reveal?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=mtg-texted-meadows-about-trump-declaring-martial-law-new-texts-reveal
MTG Texted Meadows About Trump Declaring Martial Law, New Texts Reveal
| Quote: | Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) claimed under oath on Friday that she couldn’t remember whether she’d privately suggested that then-President Donald Trump invoke martial law to cling to power after the 2020 election.
But newly released texts between Greene and then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows might jog her memory.
CNN published on Monday a tranche of texts sent between Meadows and others that, CNN said, had been turned over the House Jan. 6 Committee. The log revealed frantic and desperate conversations between the White House official and various Trump stooges, including Greene, between the November election and Jan. 21 last year.
The records showed that Greene texted Meadows on Jan. 17, 11 days after Trump supporters stormed the Capitol, to raise the question of whether Trump might invoke martial law.
“In our private chat with only Members, several are saying the only way to save our Republic is for Trump to call for Marshall [sic] law. I don’t know on those things. I just wanted you to tell him,” Greene wrote. “They stole this election. We all know. They will destroy our country next. Please tell him to declassify as much as possible so we can go after Biden and anyone else!”
It was unclear whether Meadows responded to her message.
Revelations of Greene’s text comes several days after the Georgia lawmaker, who’s currently facing a bid to get her disqualified from office for fueling the Jan. 6 insurrection, testified repeatedly that she did “not recall” whether she was involved in key elements of Trump’s election steal — including whether or not she’d advocated for him to declare martial law.
“Did you advocate to President Trump to impose martial law as a way to remain in power?” one of the attorneys representing disqualification effort asked on Friday.
“I do not recall,” Greene replied.
“So you’re not denying you did it?” the lawyer pressed.
“I don’t remember,” she said. |
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