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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gab has spent the past 48 hours proudly working with the DOJ and FBI to bring justice to an alleged terrorist. Because of the data we provided, they now have plenty of evidence for their case. In the midst of this Gab has been no-platformed by essential internet infrastructure providers at every level. We are the most censored, smeared, and no-platformed startup in history, which means we are a threat to the media and to the Silicon Valley Oligarchy.

Gab isnt going anywhere.

It doesnt matter what you write. It doesnt matter what the sophist talking heads say on TV. It doesnt matter what verified nobodies say on Twitter. We have plenty of options, resources, and support. We will exercise every possible avenue to keep Gab online and defend free speech and individual liberty for all people.

You have all just made Gab a nationally recognized brand as the home of free speech online at a time when Silicon Valley is stifling political speech they disagree with to interfere in a US election.

The internet is not reality. TV is not reality. 80% of normal everyday people agree with Gab and support free expression and liberty. The online outrage mob and mainstream media spin machine are the minority opinion. People are waking up, so please keep pointing the finger at a social network instead of pointing the finger at the alleged shooter who holds sole responsibility for his actions.

No-platform us all you want. Ban us all you want. Smear us all you want.

You cant stop an idea.

As we transition to a new hosting provider Gab will be inaccessible for a period of time. We are working around the clock to get Gab.com back online. Thank you and remember to speak freely.

Andrew Torba, CEO Gab.com
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Gab has spent the past 48 hours proudly working with the DOJ and FBI to bring justice to an alleged terrorist. Because of the data we provided, they now have plenty of evidence for their case. In the midst of this Gab has been no-platformed by essential internet infrastructure providers at every level. We are the most censored, smeared, and no-platformed startup in history, which means we are a threat to the media and to the Silicon Valley Oligarchy.

Gab isnt going anywhere.

It doesnt matter what you write. It doesnt matter what the sophist talking heads say on TV. It doesnt matter what verified nobodies say on Twitter. We have plenty of options, resources, and support. We will exercise every possible avenue to keep Gab online and defend free speech and individual liberty for all people.

You have all just made Gab a nationally recognized brand as the home of free speech online at a time when Silicon Valley is stifling political speech they disagree with to interfere in a US election.

The internet is not reality. TV is not reality. 80% of normal everyday people agree with Gab and support free expression and liberty. The online outrage mob and mainstream media spin machine are the minority opinion. People are waking up, so please keep pointing the finger at a social network instead of pointing the finger at the alleged shooter who holds sole responsibility for his actions.

No-platform us all you want. Ban us all you want. Smear us all you want.

You cant stop an idea.

As we transition to a new hosting provider Gab will be inaccessible for a period of time. We are working around the clock to get Gab.com back online. Thank you and remember to speak freely.

Andrew Torba, CEO Gab.com


we do not give platforms to pedophiles so why should we of racists. In Germany Nazis will go to jail. why shouldn't they like pedophiles or people who yell fire in movie theatres.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh the old liberal FBI.... guess this lawsuit made them liberals as the nazi in the whitehouse and right wingers claim.


https://www.wired.com/2010/08/nsl-gag-order-lifted/?hc_ref=ARQgst8z7-c8yzrs-FPqyAsBOU3opObWasSuh8E0jAd0aZTTcL7vKP6H0wrRwdHTxY4&fbclid=IwAR3Ki-6yrDxDUlBd_ZF98MulfULu6RZi2nzQlgEyVeS1i0kYocfFFKRhG7k

'JOHN DOE' WHO FOUGHT FBI SPYING FREED FROM GAG ORDER AFTER 6 YEARS



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The owner of an internet service provider who mounted a high-profile court challenge to a secret FBI records demand has finally been partially released from a 6-year-old gag order that forced him to keep his role in the case a secret from even his closest friends and family. He can now identify himself and discuss the case, although he still can't reveal what information the FBI sought.

Nicholas Merrill, 37, was president of New York-based Calyx Internet Access when he received a so-called "national security letter" from the FBI in February 2004 demanding records of one of his customers and filed a lawsuit to challenge it. His company was a combination ISP and security consultancy business that was launched in the mid-90s and had about 200 customers, Merrill said, many of them advertising agencies and non-profit groups.

Despite the fact that the FBI later dropped its demand for the records, Merrill was prohibited from telling his fiance, friends or family members that he had received the letter or that he was embroiled in a lawsuit challenging its legitimacy. He occasionally showed up for court hearings about the case, but sat silently in the audience with other court observers. In 2007, he was prevented from publicly accepting an award for his courage from the American Civil Liberties Union, because he was not allowed to identify himself as the plaintiff in the case.

U.S. District Judge Victor Marrero in New York finally released Merrill partially from the gag order (.pdf) on July 30, which Merrill revealed publicly only on Monday.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: Freedom of speech? Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
U.S. Sen. Chris Murphy: Big Tech �Must Do More Than Take Down� InfoWars....

Of course. We must burn all digital evidence of conservatism.....but just like the French revolution, they'll eventually come for your head too.


well well Moscow Maligu Barfie again opens his mouth and a lie-stench comes out...

as we know another of his deplorable heros that he startedthis thread is facing justice, he was convicted of lies he made that moscow Malibu barfie claims is great for america....

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/alex-jones-doesnt-care-about-you


Alex Jones Doesn't Care About You


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Josh Owens was an InfoWars employee from 2013 to 2017. In an essay published on CNN.com this week, Owens described his deep regret over the past 5 years as he grappled with the damage his work caused. OTM reporter Micah Loewinger spoke to Owens this week about Jones' role in the dissemination of disinformation in the light of what we are learning about the January 6th insurrection.


https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2022/06/politics/alex-jones-infowars-fringe-to-frontline/


FROM FRINGE TO FRONTLINE
How Alex Jones stoked many of the conspiracy theories taking hold in today’s Republican party


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On a January night in 2002, a 37-year-old man donned a patriotic-themed uniform, covered his face with a skull mask and activated a long-held plan.

Armed with a .45-caliber pistol, crossbow, makeshift bomb launcher, 2-foot-long sword and double-barreled shotgun/assault rifle hybrid, Richard McCaslin made his way into a forest north of San Francisco. His mission: to find and expose a secretive group of elites who — he wrongly believed — engaged in child abuse and human sacrifice.

On a January afternoon nearly 20 years later, another man made his way from California to Washington, DC, on a quest to vanquish elites who, he wrongly believed, had stolen the presidential election from Donald Trump. Daniel Rodriguez, then 38, joined the mob that besieged the US Capitol on January 6, 2021. During the battle to breach the building, Rodriguez used a stun gun on a police officer, who would suffer a heart attack and traumatic brain injury.

Both McCaslin and Rodriguez said they had been inspired by a fiery conspiracy theory peddler named Alex Jones.

McCaslin — who watched Jones sneak onto the site in a 2000 film called “Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove,” and who was thwarted by sheriff’s deputies before he could inflict harm on staff at the Bohemian Grove campground — was a freakish outlier. Rodriguez — who said Jones’ website had inspired him to seek “truth and answers” — held false beliefs about the 2020 election now shared by millions of Americans.

It’s a contrast that mirrors the startling transformation of Jones, whose influence — through his technological prowess, fortuitous timing, cult of personality and sheer force of will — has crept from the fringes to the mainstream.

A self-made entrepreneur, Jones is the creator and host of Infowars, a far-right conspiracy-mongering website that features articles and daily videos of his commentary.

With the verbal fluidity of a great talk show host and the excitable charisma of a televangelist, the hard-charging, gravelly voiced Jones has perfected the WWE-ification of the news: It looks professional, but is far from real.

If the object of an actual news show is to inform viewers in a compelling way, the object of Infowars is to whip up the ever-dormant flames of populist fear and resentment in service of going viral — without a thought to who gets hurt or who is driven to violence. It’s doom-porn, and the name of the game is to get eyeballs and sell products.

Sitting at his anchor desk, surrounded by news clippings in his remarkably professional studio in Austin, Texas, the 48-year-old Jones puts on an hours-long online show six days a week that revels in the coming apocalypse and rails against a shadowy, evil enemy.


https://www.moviemaker.com/alexs-war-trailer-alex-jones-documentary-january-6-riot-sandy-hook/


‘Everything’s a War’: New Alex Jones Doc Covers Conspiracy Theories, January 6 and Sandy Hook


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“Everything’s a war,” says Alex Jones in the trailer for the new documentary Alex’s War. “That’s the way the universe works. And everything is propaganda.”

The film by director Alex Lee Moyer looks to paint a nuanced portrait of a man described by others in the trailer as “fake” and a “performance artist.” A press release says the film benefitted from “Jones’ first ever independent long-form interviews, behind the scenes footage” and “full access to the Infowars archives.”

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great points by this person, certainly will not be in textbooks in texas...

what is that texas is calling it involuntary relocation or something like that.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:24 am    Post subject: Why freedom of speech is important Reply with quote

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/12/learning/why-is-freedom-of-speech-an-important-right-when-if-ever-can-it-be-limited.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:17 am    Post subject: free speech Reply with quote

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-strikes-down-matt-gaetz-claim-voter-suppression-is-free-speech/ar-AA16uyG8?ocid=wn_startbrowsing&cvid=a461b899f7ee439ea1c4dfe21af11f00

Judge strikes down Matt Gaetz claim voter suppression is free speech


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Two far-right social media influencers were arrested in 2021 after working online to suppress votes targeting people of color in 2016. Things aren't going well in court for them, however.

Rep. Matthew Louis Gaetz, II

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"Douglass Mackey, aka Ricky Vaughn, 31, of West Palm Beach, was charged by criminal complaint in the Eastern District of New York," the Justice Department said in a release after the arrest. "He was taken into custody ... in West Palm Beach and made his initial appearance before U.S. Magistrate Judge Bruce E. Reinhart of the Southern District of Florida."

“According to the allegations in the complaint, the defendant exploited a social media platform to infringe one the of most basic and sacred rights guaranteed by the Constitution: the right to vote,” said Nicholas L. McQuaid, Acting Assistant Attorney General of the Justice Department’s Criminal Division. “This complaint underscores the department’s commitment to investigating and prosecuting those who would undermine citizens’ voting rights.”

Mackey is a white nationalist troll that has built his profile as a pro-Trump activist name “Ricky Vaughn."

Mackey's lawyers had two motions before the court, one to change the venue from the Eastern District of New York and a motion to dismiss the charges because his right to tweet whatever he wants falls under the First Amendment. The judge ruled Wednesday that both of those motions are being denied.

"Defendant Mackey's motion to dismiss the Indictment is denied," the judge said in the order. "This court finds first that a reasonable jury could hold, under any one of several theories, that it was reasonably foreseeable that Tweets from a Manhattan-based Twitter personality with thousands of followers would reach or pass through a judicial district as large as the Eastern District of New York, and that venue was therefore properly laid in the district," the judge continued.

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"Finally, 18 USC §241 as applied in the indictment does not, as a matter of law, violate the First Amendment because although the case involves false utterances, it is at its core, about conspiracy and injury, not speech. To the extent that the case does implicate the First Amendment, it is constitutional under the standard false utterances set forth by the Supreme Court in United States v.Alvarez .... Although Defendant Mackey contends that the false utterances are protected as satirical speech, that is an issue of fact for the jury."

Mackey is accused of making ads that encouraged voters of Hillary Clinton to text their vote. If they did, they should think that their vote was officially cast. That is a lie. The complaint says that Mackey tricked about 5,000 people into miscasting a Hillary Clinton ballot.

National security expert and legal commentator Marcy Wheeler pointed out that Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) has been one of the biggest advocates of what he calls "Freedom of Speech" but at all costs.

"The First Amendment doesn't exist to protect comfortable speech. It exists to protect uncomfortable speech," said Gaetz. "If we can't have the freedom to express ourselves online, what's the point of the First Amendment anyway?"

Mackey's antics are the same kind of activity that is at the heart of a great deal of FBI reports to Twitter in 2020 and 2024," Wheeler pointed out. Gaetz and other Republicans in Congress have taken issue with the FBI reaching out to Twitter to report possible illegal activity or activity that violates the Twitter terms of service.

Twitter CEO Elon Musk has been promoting such emails and contact as an example of federal government overreach. One such email he posted was from 2022, after he took over the platform. The San Francisco office of the FBI suggested a ban on a few accounts for what they said they believed were violations of Twitter. Under Musk's leadership, three of the four accounts are still suspended.

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