PROOF: Obama IS the end of the free world

boggsman1 · Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9120 Location: at a computer

Im not biting on your bait, Mr. G. But, I really dont have an interest in discussing the political response to the news. If you want to have an adult conversation about Middle East policy and the role of USA, it would be welcome. If you're bored on a Tuesday morning, and want to provoke a response from a liberal, you'll have to look elsewhere.

windoggi · Joined: 22 Feb 2002 Posts: 2743

keycocker · Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 3598

I guess you don't speak to many libs. They do not always oppose every war any more than GOPs supporting every attack.That is just partisan BS assigning opinions to others.
eight year wars based on an error are different....

MalibuGuru · Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300

As a conservative I wasn't in favor of going into Iraq a second time. I didn't want ground troops in Afghanistan, and this to little too late response in Libya is pathetic.

They should have launced cruise missles 2 weeks ago, and been done with it.

I always thought the peaceful solution to war in the middle east was to close our borders to any immigration from those countries. Lock all of them out of our country, and very few Americans or innocent civilians would have died in the mean time.

Obama's lack of leadership skills is stunning. That also goes for Bush.

mrgybe · Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 5180

boggsman1 · Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9120 Location: at a computer

Semantically speaking I have heard people at least as smart as you mention Egypt and Middle East in the same sentence, as well as Libya.
The first official use of the term "Middle East" by the United States government was in the 1957 Eisenhower Doctrine, which pertained to the Suez Crisis. Secretary of State John Foster Dulles defined the Middle East as "the area lying between and including Libya on the west and Pakistan on the east, Syria and Iraq on the North and the Arabian peninsula to the south, plus the Sudan and Ethiopia."[12] In 1958, the State Department explained that the terms "Near East" and "Middle East" were interchangeable, and defined the region as including only Egypt, Syria, Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, and Qatar.[16]
Living in the DC area, I would think you would be familiar with Mr. Dulles words.

DanWeiss · Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 2296 Location: Connecticut, USA

jp5 · Joined: 19 May 1998 Posts: 3394 Location: OnUr6

Send the Arab league a bill for the 122 cruise missiles, one F15 Eagle, fuel for all the aircraft and ships at sea, and pay for all soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines. We can't be doing this stuff for free any more.

boggsman1 · Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9120 Location: at a computer

Dan
Your understanding of what constitutes the Middle East is correct. Some people would say that the Middle East is only Asian countries(mr. G), others would not. Somalia sits about a 9 iron from Yemen, I consider that the Middle East. Egypt , and Libya as well. When Egypt was erupting, I wonder how many world news organizations referred to it as a Middle Eastern event? should they all correct their misstatement?

boggsman1 · Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9120 Location: at a computer