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konajoe
Joined: 28 Feb 2010 Posts: 517
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Let's face it. Your first time in the straps shouldn't be a 'hanging on for dear life' day. I do alot of Kona planing with only the front foot in the strap. It's a marginal planing position that works for me, too. I only start thinking about the back strap when fairly well powered.
So, I thought that was fairly common. I had never considered it to be dangerous in marginal conditions. But maybe it is. Before reading that, I would have suggested that you should learn to walk before running, and do front foot only in some tamer conditions. |
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jingebritsen
Joined: 21 Aug 2002 Posts: 3371
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:01 am Post subject: |
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lotsa comments. coachg said it well. "i need to see you doing it to help you correct it."
for those offering advice on this thread. try stepping back behind the straps when really powered up to slightly over powered. this is what it feels like to be hooked and not in the straps on a kona one while being super lit.
why does this person have an issue of not getting in the straps? common problem, boom too low to reach them. easier to hook in when in a non-planing state, but, esp with the base really far forward, but adds to the dysfunction when powered and hooked in.
the old argument of which foot to put in first is primarily a geographical preference. those that live in a really high wind venue may be able to place their back feet in first, but for the rest of us in shiddy wind venues, this is another comfort trap. methinks LA may be considered a humble wind spot.
OP, raise your boom to eye level, put the mast base at 2/3 aft. hook in only after you get your front foot in. don't look down to do it. braille the damn thing in. your harness lines will gravitate aft accordingly, soon enough.
again, getting some advice from an experienced sailor, live and in person, is worth about 10 million keystrokes on these forums.
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 8:23 am Post subject: |
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jingebritsen wrote: | the old argument of which foot to put in first is primarily a geographical preference. those that live in a really high wind venue may be able to place their back feet in first
please filter out comments made by an argumentative old fart from the gorge. what works for him has very little bearing even for most there. |
Again, very dishonest of you, as you know I never even heard of the Gorge until about my 5th or 6th year of very frequent WSing, and didn't move here until my 20th year.
From very experienced ocean sailor stevenbard just yesterday ... "today I was rescued after an off the lip on a southern hemi swell and big winds. I hit so hard and contorted on the wave face that I broke my ankle. Stuck in the footstrap (front only) ... " Just one of MANY incidents of foot and ankle injuries caused by FFOnly sailing. |
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noshuzbluz
Joined: 18 May 2000 Posts: 791
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 9:30 am Post subject: |
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isobars wrote: | jingebritsen wrote: | the old argument of which foot to put in first is primarily a geographical preference. those that live in a really high wind venue may be able to place their back feet in first
please filter out comments made by an argumentative old fart from the gorge. what works for him has very little bearing even for most there. |
Again, very dishonest of you, as you know I never even heard of the Gorge until about my 5th or 6th year of very frequent WSing, and didn't move here until my 20th year.
From very experienced ocean sailor stevenbard just yesterday ... "today I was rescued after an off the lip on a southern hemi swell and big winds. I hit so hard and contorted on the wave face that I broke my ankle. Stuck in the footstrap (front only) ... " Just one of MANY incidents of foot and ankle injuries caused by FFOnly sailing. |
Sounds like he was on a wave, not just cruising along in the chop. I've never seen anybody riding waves with their back foot in and front foot out. _________________ The Time a Person Spends Windsurfing is not Deducted from their Lifespan...
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xander.arch
Joined: 23 Apr 2009 Posts: 217
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 10:19 am Post subject: |
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This thread has indeed become too obsessed with straps. Sail handling is key. I believe that good footwork will follow how you relate to the sail. To this end, take Jingebritzens advice on boom height to heart (although I wouldnt go higher than chin height) and make sure your sail is rigged right. Get advice from a local expert who can most likely give you immediate feedback on your rigging.
I will also add that practicing light wind techniques like backwind sailing, clew first sailing, and Andy Brandt's (ABK) 8 turns will greatly improve your overall feel for the sail, rig balance, and footwork. This will yield heaps of benefit to your progress in all wind strengths.
Most of all have fun. And be prepared to fall - alot. Crashing around learning high winds is one of the most fun and rewarding stages of learning windsurfing. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 10:48 am Post subject: |
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noshuzbluz wrote: | I've never seen anybody riding waves with their back foot in and front foot out. |
And I've never suggested doing that. |
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cgoudie1
Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 2599 Location: Killer Sturgeon Cove
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Actually I've gone BFF sneaking out over white water wave breaks
barely planing. I guess that's not wave riding, but it can be useful
for a really wide stance, that gets the nose of your board up and over the white water. Used it at Kanaha more than once.
I'm not normally a BFFer, just say'n I found a use for it.
-Craig
isobars wrote: | noshuzbluz wrote: | I've never seen anybody riding waves with their back foot in and front foot out. |
And I've never suggested doing that. |
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Darbonne
Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 252 Location: Farmerville, Louisiana
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Had the boom just above shoulder height. Thanks for all the advice folks. Going to keep working on it. |
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PeconicPuffin
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 1830
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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While there are a few situations in which putting the back foot into the footstrap first is a viable tactic, anyone learning to windsurf should go front foot first (which is why every windsurfing instructor on the planet teaches FFF.) BFF is a dead end. FFF leads to learning better board control, earlier planing, the ability to pump onto a plane, the ability to plane through a jibe, the ability to stay planing in less wind etc.
I had the misfortune of learning BFF, and suffered all of the doofus shortcomings it creates. I am forever grateful to Paul and Alf Imperato for showing me the error of my ways. _________________ Michael
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xander.arch
Joined: 23 Apr 2009 Posts: 217
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Are you saying that BFF does not mean Best Friends Forever? |
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