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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
Come on Bard, why don't you tell us what Donald Trump would have done.

Are you somehow suggesting that Putin would never have started a war in the Ukraine if Trump was president? That Trump had Putin under his thumb and literally eating out of his hand?

Maybe you can start with how a heroic Trump threw Putin and the Russians out of Syria and ended the war there. After that, please tell us how Trump kicked the Russians out of the Crimea and rightfully restored Ukrainian leadership over the region.


Trump warned Merckle not to do a deal with Russia. Oil production was through the roof. Under Obama Putin took Crimea etc. Under Trump wars ended, peace between Israel and Arabs. Now Biden and his shit show
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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russia Sees Extra $6.4 Billion Oil Revenue In June As Prices Rally

Under Trump, Putin would be broke...for starters.
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vientomas



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
swchandler wrote:
Come on Bard, why don't you tell us what Donald Trump would have done.

Are you somehow suggesting that Putin would never have started a war in the Ukraine if Trump was president? That Trump had Putin under his thumb and literally eating out of his hand?

Maybe you can start with how a heroic Trump threw Putin and the Russians out of Syria and ended the war there. After that, please tell us how Trump kicked the Russians out of the Crimea and rightfully restored Ukrainian leadership over the region.


Trump warned Merckle not to do a deal with Russia. Oil production was through the roof. Under Obama Putin took Crimea etc. Under Trump wars ended, peace between Israel and Arabs. Now Biden and his shit show


Yep, Trump wanted to sell fracked gas from the US to Germany. Nothing to do with global energy policy. Everything to do with reelection.

Trump also wanted oil prices to increase after Russia and the Saudi's got into an oil price war. Again, American jobs in the shale oil industry were at risk and Trump wanted the support for reelection. Nothing to do with global energy policy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Russia Sees Extra $6.4 Billion Oil Revenue In June As Prices Rally

Under Trump, Putin would be broke...for starters.


Go re-watch the Trump / Putey handshake in Helsinki, then rethink your brainless commentary above.
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bard, tell me about how Donald Trump stopped the raging war between Israel and the Arabs. I don't remember that one, but I think you forgot to tell me how Trump kicked the Russians out of Syria and ended that war.

Also, as I recollect, Trump couldn't end the war in Afghanistan during his 4 long years as president. Actually, it was Joe Biden that duly ended our war with Afghanistan and saved us untold billions.

However, Trump does hold a record as being the most unfit president in our nation's history. With his two impeachments, it's hard to view him as anything but our worst president too. Nobody else comes even remotely close to wearing that ugly stain.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Russia Sees Extra $6.4 Billion Oil Revenue In June As Prices Rally

Under Trump, Putin would be broke...for starters.


Trump is a cunt, and I don't mean that in terms of endearment in an Australian way!!!

He invited everyone to Jan. 6th. (it will be wild) and it was.

Ashli Babbit's blood is on his hands.

C.U.N.T - Can't Understand Nothin' Trump!

F' him!

Oh, and he was Putin's puppy!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
swchandler wrote:
Come on Bard, why don't you tell us what Donald Trump would have done.

Are you somehow suggesting that Putin would never have started a war in the Ukraine if Trump was president? That Trump had Putin under his thumb and literally eating out of his hand?

Maybe you can start with how a heroic Trump threw Putin and the Russians out of Syria and ended the war there. After that, please tell us how Trump kicked the Russians out of the Crimea and rightfully restored Ukrainian leadership over the region.


Trump warned Merckle not to do a deal with Russia. Oil production was through the roof. Under Obama Putin took Crimea etc. Under Trump wars ended, peace between Israel and Arabs. Now Biden and his shit show


When Moscow Malibu barfie speaks a stench is put out.

Under Bush 2 Russia took Georgia to test if he could do anything he wanted.

What democracy in the world respected the Pedophile by the name of trump? Why would anyone listen to a guy who supplied secret intelligence to Russia that harmed the nation that provided it? A guy who removed all americans from secret meetings with Putin only russian translators allowed. You are a traitor Moscow Barfie to support such activities.

Trump gave the russians what they wanted, remember the RNC platform mysteriously changed to support russia. And was carried out, the sanctions of the Minsky act were removed by the pedophile when he took office.

again right now the USA needs to tell all dictator oil producing nations that if Putin is not stopped and he launches a nuke anywhere that each dictator will have several coming their way and all other dictator nations supporting Putin in anyway. That the leaders of those nations will be erased as long as it takes.

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swchandler



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bard, this brief article from the Washington Post is for you.


"Barr blasts ’2000 Mules’ for false election conspiracy theories

By Matthew Brown12:53 p.m.

Former attorney general William P. Barr said he was “unimpressed” with the false election claims made in Dinesh D’Souza’s film “2000 Mules,” which claims to prove widespread voter fraud.

“My opinion then and my opinion now is that the election was not stolen by fraud, and I haven’t seen anything since the election that changes my mind on that, including the ’2000 Mules’ movie,” Barr told committee investigators.

Barr called the film’s logic claiming to use cellphone geolocation data to prove widespread voter fraud “singularly unimpressive” and “indefensible” in how it misrepresents the technology. He added that the photographic evidence was “lacking” in its claim to show the mass dropping off of ballots.

“It’s not clear that even if you can show harvesting that that changes the results of the election,” Barr told investigators, because the ballots themselves would have to be shown to be illegal in some way, which the Trump campaign would have had to separately prove.

Barr noted that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation also dismissed the film’s claims for lack of substance."
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mac



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So today we find out that in addition to trying to foment a coup, Trump also raised $200 million from his loyal fools--and he has absconded with those funds. How much did Bard give him?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part of the not normal team:

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Three days before Congress was slated to certify the 2020 presidential election, a little-known Justice Department official named Jeffrey Clark rushed to meet President Donald Trump in the Oval Office to discuss a last-ditch attempt to reverse the results.

Clark, an environmental lawyer by trade, had outlined a plan in a letter he wanted to send to the leaders of key states Joe Biden won. It said that the Justice Department had “identified significant concerns” about the vote and that the states should consider sending “a separate slate of electors supporting Donald J. Trump” for Congress to approve.

In fact, Clark’s bosses had warned there was not evidence to overturn the election and had rejected his letter days earlier. Now they learned Clark was about to meet with Trump. Acting attorney general Jeffrey Rosen tracked down his deputy, Richard Donoghue, who had been walking on the Mall in muddy jeans and an Army T-shirt. There was no time to change. They raced to the Oval Office.

As Rosen and Donoghue listened, Clark told Trump that he would send the letter if the president named him attorney general.

“History is calling,” Clark told the president, according to a deposition from Donoghue excerpted in a recent court filing. “This is our opportunity. We can get this done.”

Donoghue urged Trump not to put Clark in charge, calling him “not competent” and warning of “mass resignations” by Justice Department officials if he became the nation’s top law enforcement official, according to Donoghue’s account.

“What happens if, within 48 hours, we have hundreds of resignations from your Justice Department because of your actions?” Donoghue said he asked Trump. “What does that say about your leadership?”

Clark’s letter and his Oval Office meeting set off one of the tensest chapters during Trump’s effort to overturn the election, which culminated three days later with rioters storming the U.S. Capitol. His plan could have decapitated the Justice Department leadership and could have overturned the election.


Clark’s actions have been the focus of a Senate Judiciary Committee investigation and an ongoing probe by the Justice Department’s inspector general, and now are expected to be closely examined during June hearings by the House committee investigating the insurrection of Jan. 6, 2021.


Environmental attorney is a misnomer. He was part of the paid crew of deniers making money doing the bidding of big oil.

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At Kirkland & Ellis, Clark represented the United States Chamber of Commerce in lawsuits challenging the federal government's authority to regulate carbon emissions and the Environmental Protection Agency's "endangerment finding"
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