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real-human
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| MalibuGuru wrote: | | baja-human wrote: | John adams
Laws for the liberal education of youth, especially for the lower classes of people, are so extremely wise and useful that to a humane and generous mind, no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant. |
FYI, back then liberal meant to liberate oneself from the oppress government. However, I do believe that at good education is important. Not a liberal one. |
tell me of any free country in the history of mankind where education has not been a liberal concept.
why do you think right wingers hate public universities and are only for the religious universities.
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when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard. |
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mac
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Finally:
| Quote: | FLINT — Six state employees were criminally charged this morning in district court in connection with the Flint water crisis.
Charged are Michigan Department of Health and Human Services workers Nancy Peeler, Corinne Miller and Robert Scott, and Michigan Department of Environmental Quality employees Liane Shekter-Smith; Adam Rosenthal and Patrick Cook, according to testimony this morning in Flint’s district court.
Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette and Todd Flood, the Royal Oak attorney heading the AG's investigation, discussed the charges at an 11:30 a.m. news conference at U-M Flint.
"Some people failed to act, others minimized harm done and arrogantly chose to ignore data, some intentionally altered figures ... and covered up significant health risks," he said.
In April, Schuette announced felony charges against two Michigan Department of Environmental Quality officials and one City of Flint official. At that time, he promised more criminal charges would be forthcoming.
The city employee, Mike Glasgow, pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor and is cooperating with the investigation as other charges were dropped. The two DEQ employees, Stephen Busch and Mike Prysby, are awaiting preliminary examinations.
He later brought a civil lawsuit against engineering and consulting firms who had consulted on the Flint Water Treatment Plant.
The civil lawsuit, filed in Flint in Genesee County Circuit Court, accuses engineering firm Lockwood, Andrews & Newnam and environmental consultant Veolia North America, plus related companies, of causing "the Flint Water Crisis to occur, continue and worsen." Both companies have denied any wrongdoing and vowed to fight the lawsuit.
Flint's drinking water became contaminated in lead in April 2014 after the city, while under the control of a state-appointed emergency manager, switched from treated water supplied from Detroit to raw water from the Flint River, which was treated at the Flint Water Treatment Plant.
DEQ officials have acknowledged a mistake in failing to require corrosion control chemicals to be added to the water. As a result, lead leached from pipes, joints and fixtures into Flint households and harmful lead levels spiked in Flint children. |
Article from Detroit Free Press. Pressure came from ACLU.
To be determined: the role of the governor's appointees in austerity decisions. |
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mac
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Deliberate policy by Republican leadership. If Hillary had run an effective campaign in Michigan the problems of Flint would have been laid at the steps of the Republicans.
| Quote: | Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette filed another round of criminal charges Tuesday in the ongoing water crisis in Flint, the latest action in a nearly year-long investigation to hold accountable those responsible for a disaster that exposed thousands of children to dangerously high lead levels.
Schuette announced felony charges against four people, including two former state-appointed emergency managers who oversaw a disastrous switch of the city’s drinking water source to the Flint River. Darnell Earley, whom Gov. Rick Snyder (R) put in charge of the city’s finances from late 2013 through early 2015, and Gerald Ambrose, who held the emergency manager position through April 2015, could face decades in prison.
Prosecutors allege that the emergency managers conspired with two Flint employees, public works Superintendent Howard Croft and utilities Administrator Daugherty Johnson, to enter into a contract under false pretenses that bound the city to use the river for its drinking water, even though the local water plant was in no condition to properly deliver safe water to residents.
Even after the officials were told repeatedly that the Flint water department wasn’t ready to make the switch in 2014 and that the city should keep getting its water from Detroit, investigators say Earley and Ambrose pushed the change forward in a bid to save money. The decision ultimately exposed children and other residents to lead-tainted water and resulted in the death of a dozen people from Legionnaire’s disease.
[‘If I could afford to leave, I would.’ In Flint, a water crisis with no end in sight.]
“This fixation [on money] has cost lives. This fixation came at the expense of protecting the health and safety of Flint,” Schuette said in a news conference Tuesday. “It’s all about numbers over people, money over health. . . . Flint was a casualty of arrogance, disdain and a failure of management. An absence of accountability.”
The four men charged Tuesday all face felony charges of false pretenses and conspiracy to commit false pretenses. Earley and Ambrose also face charges of willful neglect of duty and misconduct in office. |
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mac
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And Chaffetz covers up for the Governor:
| Quote: | As President Barack Obama signed a bill on Friday authorizing $170 million to address the problem of the lead being found in drinking water in Flint, Michigan, Republicans in the House quietly closed a nearly yearlong investigation of the disaster — without receiving crucial information from Republican Gov. Rick Snyder.
Late on Friday afternoon Utah Republican Jason Chaffetz, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, sent a pair of letters announcing the end of his investigation. His letters offered no new information and essentially summarized what had already revealed about the crisis during several high-profile hearings earlier this year.
Over a year ago Flint’s mayor, Karen Weaver, declared a state of emergency because of her city’s supply of poisonous water and still it remains undrinkable. Flint’s water woes date from April 2014, when a state-appointed emergency manager switched the city’s water source from Detroit’s water system to the Flint River in order to save money.
But on Friday just hours after the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, Maryland’s Rep. Elijah Cummings, called for a subpoena of the Republican governor of Michigan responsible for appointing the emergency manager who had switched Flint’s water supply, Chaffetz announced he was ending the congressional investigation. Chaffetz said he had concluded that “a series of failures at all levels of government caused, and then exacerbated, the water crisis.”
In his letter to the Republican chairmen of the House Energy and Commerce Committee and the House Appropriations Committee, Chaffetz said, “The committee found significant problems at Michigan’s Department of Environmental Quality and unacceptable delays in the Environmental Protection Agency’s response to the crisis.” |
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nw30
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Oroville, need I say anything more? Sure, why not.
Flint Michigan, all the libs were calling for the governor's head over an aged water system, so far it's been silence over Jerry Brown and his preference to a sanctuary state and a high speed rail that nobody wants, while our state's water system has been in dire need for repairs.
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Dam crisis is wake-up call for aging California water system
By Rory Carroll
Reuters February 13, 2017
https://www.yahoo.com/news/dam-crisis-wake-call-aging-california-water-system-031508848.html
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Which feeds into this as well. Would Cali. really secede from the nation? Reality bites.
Gov. Jerry Brown asks potential nemesis — President Trump — for aid
Brown estimated that the public cleanup in California will cost more than $162 million.
In December, Gov. Jerry Brown asserted California’s independence and blasted President Donald Trump for dismissing climate change.
On Friday, the governor turned to his potential nemesis for help — specifically, asking the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to declare a major disaster after the state was hammered by storms, floods and mudslides.
The request could be an early test of relations between the Democrats who run the nation’s largest state and the new Republican administration.
If California’s request is rejected, however, it might be difficult to pin it on a frosty relationship between the governor and the president, said Larry Gerston, professor emeritus of political science at San Jose State. “It’s an easy claim to make, but a hard one to prove,” he said.
FEMA considers many factors for disaster relief, including the severity of damage and cost, Gerston said. “It’s a very discretionary call by the president,” he said.
For the rest~
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/11/gov-jerry-brown-asks-potential-nemesis-president-trump-for-aid/
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The irony is rich. |
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mat-ty
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| nw30 wrote: | Oroville, need I say anything more? Sure, why not.
Flint Michigan, all the libs were calling for the governor's head over an aged water system, so far it's been silence over Jerry Brown and his preference to a sanctuary state and a high speed rail that nobody wants, while our state's water system has been in dire need for repairs.
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Dam crisis is wake-up call for aging California water system
By Rory Carroll
Reuters February 13, 2017
https://www.yahoo.com/news/dam-crisis-wake-call-aging-california-water-system-031508848.html
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Which feeds into this as well. Would Cali. really secede from the nation? Reality bites.
Gov. Jerry Brown asks potential nemesis — President Trump — for aid
Brown estimated that the public cleanup in California will cost more than $162 million.
In December, Gov. Jerry Brown asserted California’s independence and blasted President Donald Trump for dismissing climate change.
On Friday, the governor turned to his potential nemesis for help — specifically, asking the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to declare a major disaster after the state was hammered by storms, floods and mudslides.
The request could be an early test of relations between the Democrats who run the nation’s largest state and the new Republican administration.
If California’s request is rejected, however, it might be difficult to pin it on a frosty relationship between the governor and the president, said Larry Gerston, professor emeritus of political science at San Jose State. “It’s an easy claim to make, but a hard one to prove,” he said.
FEMA considers many factors for disaster relief, including the severity of damage and cost, Gerston said. “It’s a very discretionary call by the president,” he said.
For the rest~
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/11/gov-jerry-brown-asks-potential-nemesis-president-trump-for-aid/
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The irony is rich. |
That's because dams can't VOTE!!! |
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mac
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| What is missing from the above two posts is any understanding or analysis. It appears likely that neither of the two nasty boys understand that the Oroville dam--first project of the State Water Project dating back to authorization in 1960--is also a Federal flood control facility. Most dams provide both water supply and flood control, and two Federal agencies--the Corps of Engineers and the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission--have responsibilities for management. The Corps establishes the standards for flood control and FERC licensed the dam. FERC gave the dam a temporary re-license--under the Bush administration--ignoring comments raised by environmental groups that the emergency spillway was not safe in the case of an actual emergency. Oh well, don't let facts interfere with a little hate. http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/13/us/oroville-dam-warnings-ignored/ |
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nw30
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Irrelevant, because the Feds built it, the governor doesn't need to be concerned with it?
What else in the state, like freeways, immigration, and interstate energy initiated by the feds, that the governor doesn't need to be concerned with?
Your list must be very long.
If we had a Rep. governor, you'd be all over him, and you know it.
Weak try = fail. |
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techno900
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From the article that Mac posted:
| Quote: | Stork said he had seen this coming way back in October of 2005 when Friends of the River, along with the Sierra Club and the South Yuba Citizens League, filed a motion with the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) as part of Oroville Dam's re-licensing process.
In the motion, they argued that the Oroville Dam -- which was completed in 1968 and owned by the state of California -- did not meet modern safety standards. |
If the dam is owned by California, who's responsibility is it to bring it up to "modern safety standards"? |
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mac
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What is missing, still, is either understanding or analysis. Do either of you know that there are over 1500 reservoirs in California? Some of you have advocated building more. What, exactly, do you think should be done now, and by whom?
There is a difference between aging infrastructure, and a deliberate policy--by Republicans in Michigan--to ignore accepted health standards, take over local governmental institutions and disenfranchise the mostly African-American citizens of Flint, and cover up your mistakes when it exposes thousands to public health risks. If Brown had done any of that, you're right, I would be all over him. Do any of you actually understand the difference? |
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