Nutty California

coboardhead · Joined: 26 Oct 2009 Posts: 4303

Speaking of diversion Techno.

You pointed out a "nutty law" that California is proposing. A law, designed to address the issue with defining toy use by gender and the problems associated with it.

While I disagree with this sort of approach by California lawmakers, the larger concern is how we, as a society, address this issue. A issue that you, as a conservative, scoffed at.

So. 1. Do you not believe that gender defined toys create development problems with children? or 2. Are you OK with the toy industry defining what roles are acceptable for females and what roles are acceptable for males in our society? or or 3. Believe it's OK for males to remain dominant in our society and are fine with toys aiding in that? of 4. Don't believe toys have anything to do with it?

mac · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:04 am Post subject:

mrgybe · Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 5181

CB, What is a "gender defined toy"?

coachg · Joined: 10 Sep 2000 Posts: 3560

mac · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:49 am Post subject:

Coach G--I would agree with many conservatives that there are many regulations that don't deliver benefits commensurate with their costs. In most cases, those rules reflected a bygone political consensus, and perhaps should have had a sunset clause. But what trolls ignore is that it takes hard work to restructure such regulations. I know, I've done it in some cases. The alternative is a series of Executive Orders, whether by Dems or Reps that ignore that really hard work. But as we can see, some of those changes are ephemeral.

People like Techno, and indeed most of the righties on this forum are obsessed with pointing out problems, real or imagined (Techno writes about proposals, many of which will not go forward), and rarely if ever offer pragmatic solutions. That's why it's called trolling.

real-human · Joined: 02 Jul 2011 Posts: 14925 Location: on earth

swchandler · Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588

"Government overreach is subject to interpretation."

coachg touched on a very important point. From techno900's past commentary, he has no problem at all with wholesale government control and influence that follows his distorted conservative views, and sadly those of an unfit and dishonest person like Donald Trump. To me, many conservative views are not representative of freedom, quite to the contrary. While I have to agree that sometimes aggressive progressive liberal views can take things a bit too far for me, the most questionable ones usually don't make it into law.

Today, with President Joe Biden running the show, I'm much encouraged that our direction as a nation will now follow in a more thoughtful and meaningful path that will honestly address the many important challenges we face moving into the future.

coachg · Joined: 10 Sep 2000 Posts: 3560

Mac,
I am fully aware of the fact that Techno is always trolling with articles about bills that usually don't get out of committee; thus my mosquito analogy.

Coachg

boggsman1 · Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 9126 Location: at a computer

Good Point Chandler. Remember the Terry Shiavo, right -to -die case? The Repubs were willing to move Heaven and Earth to defend Terry Shiavo... Government overreach X 1,000,000 , but when some weeny bill gets mentioned during a coffee break in Sacramento.... STOP THE PRESS!

mac · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:27 pm Post subject:

Would Techno agree that controlling women's right to birth control is government overreach? Or religious entities securing billions in payments from the Trump-era Covid response bills?