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jp5
Joined: 19 May 1998 Posts: 3394 Location: OnUr6
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Yup. Batshit crazy. But you don’t want to listen to Trump on tape lying about the risk of the coronavirus. 200,000 dead, and 3/4 of them might be alive if Trump were honest and competent. That’s violence. |
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wsurfer
Joined: 17 Aug 2000 Posts: 1635
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Good point!
As the article states, the only only way to avoid violence is with a Biden landslide. So let's just get it done!
You can save your tinfoil hat for a future armageddon! |
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MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the good news for you lefty loons. If Biden wins, you lose too. We all lose. Enjoy 😉 |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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MalibuGuru wrote: | Here's the good news for you lefty loons. If Biden wins, you lose too. We all lose. Enjoy 😉 |
We've already lost--200,000 lives through Trump's mendacity. |
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vientomas
Joined: 25 Apr 2000 Posts: 2343
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:35 am Post subject: |
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ichael Steele, a former chair of the Republican National Committee, has come to share Fried’s conviction that Trump is a threat to the Republic, although Steele believes the Trump cult is more about naked political opportunism than any grand fascist ideology.
Steele bitterly resents Trump’s takeover of the GOP. He feels that Trump and his acolytes are trying to drive genuine Republicans out of their political home. As Steele piquantly puts it, “I come into your house and shit on the carpet. I tear down your drapes, write on your walls, offend the people who live in the house. Do you leave or kick my ass out? I don’t know anyone who leaves their house without a fight. What kind of America, what kind of country do you want? What kind of leader do you want?”
Like Fried, Steele in recent months concluded that Trump, aided and abetted by the GOP’s congressional leaders, is willing to “open up a Pandora’s box of mischief” to remain ensconced in the White House, Steele says. “He’s laying down the predicate—taking shots at vote by mail and saying he already knows there’s fraud— and therefore it’s likely he won’t accept the results of the election.” For Steele, Trump is “the P.T. Barnum of the 21st century, on steroids,” a man with a mastery of the art of manipulation. “He doesn’t give a shit about the people of Portland. He doesn’t give a crap about Chicago,” Steele avers. “This is not complicated. I don’t know why people keep overthinking this man. His goal is to protect himself. He uses the system against itself.”
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/trump-coup-elections-gop/ |
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jp5
Joined: 19 May 1998 Posts: 3394 Location: OnUr6
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Insurgency can be defined as ‘the organized use of subversion and violence to seize, nullify, or challenge political control of a region.’
Insurgents seek to subvert or displace the government and completely or partially control the resources and population of a given territory. They do so through the use of force (including guerrilla warfare, terrorism and coercion/intimidation), propa- ganda, subversion and political mobilization. Insurgents fight government forces only to the extent needed to achieve their political aims: their main effort is not to kill counterinsurgents, but rather to establish a competitive system of control over the population, making it impossible for the government to administer its territory and people. Insurgent activity is therefore designed to weaken government control and legitimacy while increasing insurgent control and influence.
Insurgents require supporters, recruits, safe havens, money, supplies, weapons and intelligence on government actions. A robust insurgency can be waged with the support of just a small percentage of a given population.
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Counterinsurgency may be defined as ‘comprehensive civilian and military efforts taken to simultaneously defeat and contain insurgency and address its root causes’. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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You mean white nationalist militias? How many guns are you going to fire off when Trump loses? |
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vientomas
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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jpbassman wrote: | Insurgency can be defined as ‘the organized use of subversion and violence to seize, nullify, or challenge political control of a region.’ |
"Get out and vote. Do those beautiful absentee ballots, or just make sure your vote gets counted. Make sure, because the only way we’re gonna lose this election is if the election is rigged, remember that. It’s the only way we’re going to lose this election. It’s the only way we’re going to lose this election. So we have to be very careful. The only way they’re going to win is that way, and we can’t let that happen.” |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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JP, you're in a different world, and I can definitely say that it's not a place that I would want to be. I have to wonder how you can fall sleep every night? |
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