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cgoudie1



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Location: Killer Sturgeon Cove

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Steve,

It is very lonely out there praying for that one more puff to get you up on
your board while lying in the water holding your sail in waterstart position
with a foot up on your sinker and one leg kicking the water in zero wind.
Almost everybody experiences it if their sailing career lasts long enough.
I've had the pleasure (and I've also swum in from a relatively safe
mid river). It's got to be really really lonely with Whitey on your mind.
Also amazing how much farther the distance is swimming vs even a slow slog.

I know that light wind water start miracle well. It's good to be able
to waterstart in very light wind.

-Craig

p.s. for the OP, there's a slight advantage to one perfectly timed sail pump
in getting you up on your board. This can sometimes save you the effort of
starting with one hand on the mast and one on the foot of the sail.


swchandler wrote:
I remember a very scary day sailing by myself at a small launch close to the Piedras Blancas lighthouse. Started off well off the beach and to the outside where there are a number of large angled rock islands where elephant seals tend to haul out on.

At my jibe point outside, the wind shut suddenly off completely, and unfortunately, I ended up in the water. I found that there just wasn't enough wind to waterstart, and I didn't have an uphaul. Started swimming in, and had to pass through some very thick kelp patches. All I could think in the back on my mind was the paranoia of a great white lurking about.

After about 10-15 minutes of swimming, a few light gusts suddenly came up, maybe about 12mph. Believe me, I gave it all I had to waterstart, and I was barely able to pull it off. Fortunately, I was on a big enough board to poodle in.

So many times I've been sailing and the wind tanks on the outside, and I will miss my jibe. Stuff like that can happen, and you have to be able to really hone your lightwind waterstarts to save the day. It's important to be focused, patient and closely watch for any gusts to windward to quickly be able to take advantage of the opportunity.

When things are super sketchy, a successful waterstart is almost like a miracle akin to your first waterstart.
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LUCARO



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgoudie1 wrote:


p.s. for the OP, there's a slight advantage to one perfectly timed sail pump
in getting you up on your board. This can sometimes save you the effort of
starting with one hand on the mast and one on the foot of the sail.



Agreed
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manuel



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think shark, giant octopus, stone fish, sharp reef, massive oncoming curly swell, any of those should help speed up your water start, wind or not. Worked for me Very Happy !
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westender



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a miracle that anyone learned how to do anything without the internets. I admit I spend a lot of time looking for info online.
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess that the internet today makes it a lot easier for old men like me to tell their old stories.

The internet wasn't something that existed when I started windsurfing, so my learning was limited to what I was seeing at the beach, or what I could figure out on my own. I have to admit though, windsurfing was still a big fad in the mid 80s, and a lot of interested folks made it a great overall experience.
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ss59



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

manuel wrote:
If after grabbing the foot of the sail nothing seems to happen then yes you need to let it lean back windward a bit then tilt it leeward with some momentum so that the swing weight lets you place your weight over the board.


Thank you so much for your detailed reply, sorry I'm slow to acknowledge it. You tip above is exactly where I have been going wrong. Although I do also seem to suffer with the tail of the board going downwind causing the board to luff-up and the sail to fail towards the nose to windward (and push me under as well). This is despite having my feet just about either side of the mast - maybe the tilt will help with this
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manuel



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe your board is heading downwind because of water movement too, there's little forward drive when getting up, really just about that V balance with the sail and body as counter weights of each other.

Heading back in, the swell pushes me here, makes it easier to both get up and move forward. Going out it works against me pulling and pushing against my board, more challenging and tiring.

I did notice that my back foot was beyond the front straps yesterday when in the water with the back hand still on the boom. It wasn't truly ultralight but it's really pretty rare that I step in front of the straps. The reason is I like to use each ounce of wind drive and having the rear foot beyond the front straps makes it easier to swing my weight back and thrust forward with the front foot. It also reducing the risk of losing the balance when having the switch back and forth between in front of and behind the straps. Sometimes I wish I could place my rear foot right over the straps, haha!

EDIT: To confirm when holding the foot of the sail to get up on the board, yes I tilt the board towards me with both feet on either side of the mast base. Then the momentum of the sail lets me roll over onto the board.

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