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combs
Joined: 01 Apr 1997 Posts: 130
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:05 am Post subject: mast base position |
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Have a question for the forum: What dictates where you position your mast base plate? I have come across two schools of thought and wondering which is more appropriate, or if there are other theories out there:
1. Mast base should be positioned to reflect the size of the sail being used, i.e move base forward for bigger sails, move base aft for smaller sails.
2. Mast base should be positioned to reflect how powered you are going to be for the expected conditions, i.e. move mast base forward when overpowered, move mast base aft when under powered.
Do you adjust your mast base position? If so, when and why?? |
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NOVAAN
Joined: 28 Sep 1994 Posts: 1549
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Just do what is comfortable and balanced for for you and your sailing style. Base position, harness line position. foot strap position and sail size all need to be set up so that your riding balanced. Board flat on the water and the harness taking most of the load. Adjust things until it all works for you... |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Once adjusted for a given board, I never bother to change it over the board's full sail range. That is (was?) also Robby Naish's preference. Is that optimal? I dunno; I just wanna go windsurfing, and I may plug several sails into a board if the wind is highly variable. Unless we'e racing for big bucks we can cover a lot of sins with stance, weight bias, etc. |
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manuel
Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 1158
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dllee
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5329 Location: East Bay
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Also....
Top freestylers place their mast base around 17" from the center of their front straps.
Slalom pros closer to 24".
Wave sailors around 18".
Freeride around 21.5. |
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coachg
Joined: 10 Sep 2000 Posts: 3550
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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I adjust the base when I get a new board. Moving it forward pushes the nose of the board down & moving it back lets the nose/board ride a little higher. My wave & freestyle boards tend to have it back while slalom & freeride have it more forward.
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U2U2U2
Joined: 06 Jul 2001 Posts: 5467 Location: Shipsterns Bluff, Tasmania. Colorado
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:55 am Post subject: |
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NOVAAN wrote: | Just do what is comfortable and balanced for for you and your sailing style. Base position, harness line position. foot strap position and sail size all need to be set up so that your riding balanced. Board flat on the water and the harness taking most of the load. Adjust things until it all works for you... |
What he said and me
I don’t normally change, it’s centered. Certain boards that I’ve owned I had to made adjustments, including going to a single bolt to allow more adjustments . _________________ K4 fins
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:26 am Post subject: |
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I should add that sometimes an inch can make or break a small board. We tested a Seatrend sinker decades ago that beat the hell out of us with the mast in the center of the track. 1" further forward dramatically improved its ride in chop. That suggests experimenting with mast base positioning on a new board until it feels optimized, then Gorilla Glueing it in place. Not literally, of course, but you get the picture. |
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jpf18
Joined: 13 Aug 2000 Posts: 347 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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isobars wrote: | I never bother to change it | Same here (One caveat, this is for shortboards up to ~130l). I use the Chinook base plates. Procedure when I get a new board every few years: Remove base plate from old board, transfer to new board, position around the middle of the track, screw down. Forget about it other than checking screws are tight ever so often.
I've long given up on the boards' sail ranges. Say a 90l board is advertised 4.0 to 6.5. To me that's 4.5 to 5.5 at best, sweetspot 5.0/5.2. Beyond that, the angles are off no matter how much you try reach and stretch or hunker or make adjustments on the beach. |
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westender
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 1288 Location: Portland / Gorge
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Depends on the board. On my biggest gear, 5.7, in marginal wind, one board needs the base forward to get upwind and loses speed. My hugest board 99 Carve does good with base back. Less wetted surface more speed. My smaller boards work good in the middle. Smallest board I'm not racing. Experiment. Guy I sail with always complaining the tracks are too far back?? Maybe more important to move your footstraps fore or aft than the base if something doesn't feel right ??? |
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