myiW Current Conditions and Forecasts Community Forums Buy and Sell Services
 
Hi guest · myAccount · Log in
 SearchSearch   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   RegisterRegister 
Tack
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    iWindsurf Community Forum Index -> Windsurfing Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
westender



Joined: 02 Aug 2007
Posts: 1270
Location: Portland / Gorge

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Tack or Chicken Gybe, is into the wind. The Jibe is off the wind. Their is no shame in 'the chicken-gybe' despite its name!

wsatl wrote:

Just for kicks - what are the inherent definitions of a jibe and tack? Which one turns into the wind and which one away?


Last edited by westender on Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:04 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
isobars



Joined: 12 Dec 1999
Posts: 20128

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wsatl wrote:
If everything is asked and answered elsewhere, don't bother to participate in this one.

My deepest apologies for 1) trying to help anyone who may not be aware how much more info was covered earlier and 2) trying to keep the discussion from spiraling down the same toilet.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
wsatl



Joined: 30 Sep 2014
Posts: 64

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

westender wrote:
The Tack or Chicken Gybe, is into the wind. The Jibe is off the wind. There is no shame in 'the chicken-gybe' despite its name!

wsatl wrote:

Just for kicks - what are the inherent definitions of a jibe and tack? Which one turns into the wind and which one away?


Thanks, that was more of a rhetorical question but you nailed it. Very Happy As you correctly pointed out, one was towards the direction I sometimes like to go and the other away from it. Generally, turning towards where one wants to go is the shortest and often quickest way to get there.

I agree with you that there should be no stigma for wanting to get upwind in a more direct manner. Elsewhere on the internet this is known as "gatekeeping" - where someone having a preference different than you makes them automatically lesser than.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
PeconicPuffin



Joined: 07 Jun 2004
Posts: 1807

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

westender wrote:
The Tack or Chicken Gybe, is into the wind. The Jibe is off the wind. Their is no shame in 'the chicken-gybe' despite its name!


I have always thought "chicken jibe" referred to a fast pivot jibe or slam jibe, used in wave conditions when an outbound sailor decides he/she is not going to make it past an oncoming set for example. Certainly no shame involved!

_________________
Michael
http://www.peconicpuffin.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
westender



Joined: 02 Aug 2007
Posts: 1270
Location: Portland / Gorge

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for kicks. The CG is a very old boat sailing expression from way before the Windsurfer was invented. A nice shortboard tack will certainly qualify you as one of the best sailors.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
dllee



Joined: 03 Jul 2009
Posts: 5008
Location: East Bay

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd rather a planing jibe...on a sinker...to define basic com
petence.
On a longboard, a basic tack.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
swchandler



Joined: 08 Nov 1993
Posts: 10038

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At a Jalama Beach wave contest years ago, I remember seeing Kevin Prichard quickly tack and then move right into the wave, and he did it flawlessly over and over again. Very impressive!

More recently, l saw the move used to great effect watching videos of the Aloha Classic in very light wind conditions. In very light sketchy big wave conditions, where sailors have to slog a bit to get back to the top of the break, a tack is a superior move. I think that it's a must-have move if you want to be a competitive wavesailor today.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
westender



Joined: 02 Aug 2007
Posts: 1270
Location: Portland / Gorge

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SWC, No doubt. Zero use for a tack where I sail. Last one I did in the Gorge was on a Mistral Screamer?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
asiat



Joined: 04 May 1997
Posts: 58

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeconicPuffin wrote:


I have always thought "chicken jibe" referred to a fast pivot jibe or slam jibe, used in wave conditions when an outbound sailor decides he/she is not going to make it past an oncoming set for example. Certainly no shame involved!


That is my understanding as well. It may come from boating but a chicken jibe I'm pretty certain relates to to wave sailing while trying to sail out beyond breaking waves. When you think you are gonna get clobbered you chicken jibe (quick pivot jibe) back towards shore.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
dllee



Joined: 03 Jul 2009
Posts: 5008
Location: East Bay

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In '01, I supplied the 92 liter wave board that Kevin used to tack onto the wave and advance out of the heat.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    iWindsurf Community Forum Index -> Windsurfing Discussion All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
Page 5 of 6

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum

myiW | Weather | Community | Membership | Support | Log in
like us on facebook
© Copyright 1999-2007 WeatherFlow, Inc Contact Us Ad Marketplace

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group