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real-human



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow oh Wow...... can't be any more clear than this right wing idiots can even understand this. they used 4th grade words. But will this be front page news ? If I owned the media it would be for weeks... You know like the insignificant isolation mic recording of Howard Dean. again in that one they did not play the crowd screaming just the issolation mic to distory the reality of the situation.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-demands-to-turn-over-to-house-committee-documentation-evidencing-that-trump-inflated-his-fraud-theories/ar-AA13b08N?ocid=winp2sv1plustaskbarhover&cvid=380a8eb254394ea0a4e1dfe97485a2f8

Judge demands to turn over to House committee documentation evidencing that Trump inflated his fraud theories


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Federal Judge David Carter has ordered attorney John Eastman, a key figure in former President Donald Trump's attempts to challenge the 2020 election results, to turn over to the House committee investigating the January 6 insurrection some 30 documents that would prove that the tycoon was aware that his claims were unfounded.


In his order, Judge Carter notes the presence among that documentation of a series of emails in which Eastman claims that Trump, despite signing under oath to the contrary, knew that those instances of voter fraud to challenge the results in Georgia were "inaccurate."

The contents of that email exchange are the focus of the lawsuit filed by Trump's legal team in early December 2020. It alleges that in Fulton County, Georgia, the votes of 10,315 deceased persons, 2,560 with criminal records and 2,423 unregistered voters were "incorrectly" included.


speak to the former president, but they know, given everything that

However, according to the judge, shortly before the lawsuit was filed, Eastman conveyed his "concern" to the legal team of former President Trump "about the inclusion of a number of numbers, particularly in the paragraph dealing with felons, deceased, transferred, etc.," reports NBC.

"Although the president signed a verification by Dec. 1, he has since been advised that some of the allegations were incorrect," the judge explains. Despite this, "Trump and his lawyers ultimately filed the complaint with the same inaccurate numbers without rectifying, clarifying or changing them," he notes.

"Moreover, President Trump signed under oath that those inaccurate numbers 'are either correct' or he 'believes them to be correct' to the best of his knowledge," stresses the judge, for whom those emails in Eastman's possession "are sufficiently related to and in support of a conspiracy to defraud the United States."

Judge Carter thus agrees with the House committee, which asked to reject the argument of attorney-client privilege made by Eastman, since there is evidence that both he and Trump are "involved in a criminal conspiracy against the United States".
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isobars



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A guy who simply sat in Pence's chair on Jan 6 just got 3 years in a federal prison.

BLM rioters who burned down businesses? Zip. Attorneys who fire-bombed a police car with 2 cops in it? 2 years.

I guess it all depends on whom one votes for.
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real-human



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
A guy who simply sat in Pence's chair on Jan 6 just got 3 years in a federal prison.

BLM rioters who burned down businesses? Zip. Attorneys who fire-bombed a police car with 2 cops in it? 2 years.

I guess it all depends on whom one votes for.


ya I would have given him more,

if he tried that at the white house when trump was there, well he would have been spray bombed beaten and shot as trump wanted to do to protesters, much less if a blade of grass was bent or the fences toppled. Then a person with a fake bible would have walked over the dead bodies for his photo op and applause by the radical and tyrannical right.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
A guy who simply sat in Pence's chair on Jan 6 just got 3 years in a federal prison.

BLM rioters who burned down businesses? Zip. Attorneys who fire-bombed a police car with 2 cops in it? 2 years.

I guess it all depends on whom one votes for.


I love that spin "simply sat in Pence's chair"... No biggie. Just crashed into the Capitol building, which is a Federal Building I think, and occupied the chair of the VP....no biggie in today's lunatic right. No biggie...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We watched the capitol police open the doors, wave them in, and chat with them at length quite cordially.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
A guy who simply sat in Pence's chair on Jan 6 just got 3 years in a federal prison.

BLM rioters who burned down businesses? Zip. Attorneys who fire-bombed a police car with 2 cops in it? 2 years.

I guess it all depends on whom one votes for.


On Wednesday, the 24-year-old Secor was sentenced to three-and-a-half years in prison. Earlier this year, he pleaded guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding, a felony.

Judge Trevor McFadden, who was nominated to the federal court by former President Donald Trump, said Secor's conduct was, "about as blatant and obstructive as any [he's] seen from that day that didn't include actual violence."

The probation office recommended a decrease in the sentencing guidelines due to Secor accepting responsibility for his actions, and the defense submitted letters in support of Secor's remorse.

However, McFadden told Secor, "I'm not sure I've really seen that from you, sir."

Assistant U.S. Attorney Kimberly Paschall, the prosecutor in the case, emphasized Secor's enthusiasm for guns and his involvement with America First, which the government called an extremist group...In addition to storming the Capitol, prosecutors had raised concerns about Secor's large purchases from firearms and tactical gear retailers, a GoPro video in which he wielded an AR-15-style rifle in his room, and his discussion in text messages of conducting "future operations" that were "ultra secret" after Jan. 6.

At his hearing, Secor declined to speak, other than to say that the "operation" referred to in those messages referred to a business idea rather than any violence.

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/19/1129912913/a-former-ucla-student-was-sentenced-to-over-three-years-in-prison-for-capitol-ri

It’s a common refrain from some of those charged in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol and their Republican allies: The Justice Department is treating them harshly because of their political views while those arrested during last year’s protests over racial injustice were given leniency.

Court records tell a different story.

An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal cases stemming from the protests sparked by George Floyd’s death last year shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes and sent to prison.

The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.

https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those pesky facts don't make it through Isobars thick skull.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"We watched the capitol police open the doors, wave them in, and chat with them at length quite cordially."


That doesn't square with smashing-in of windows and the attacks on Capital Police that I saw on videos. Are you saying that the violence didn't actually happen?

I have to wonder whether you tuned into the January 6 Committee and their findings, to include the prosecutorial actions of the DOJ.

I think that your views are the result of watching too much Fox News, and foolishly accepting lies coming out of right wing social media.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
We watched the capitol police open the doors, wave them in, and chat with them at length quite cordially.


Bullshit!

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000007606996/capitol-riot-trump-supporters.html
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you think Isobars will watch that?
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