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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/15/us/trump-emails-eastman-chesebro-jan-6.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20220615&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=cta&regi_id=115919677&segment_id=95253&user_id=f730a3b9531f5b2c781c5ff7996dd05c


In an email weeks after the election, another lawyer advising the Trump campaign responded that the prospect of “‘wild’ chaos” on Jan. 6 could lead the Supreme Court to take up a case.


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WASHINGTON — A lawyer advising President Donald J. Trump claimed in an email after Election Day 2020 to have insight into a “heated fight” among the Supreme Court justices over whether to hear arguments about the president’s efforts to overturn his defeat at the polls, two people briefed on the email said.

The lawyer, John Eastman, made the statement in a Dec. 24, 2020, exchange with a Wisconsin lawyer and Trump campaign officials over whether to file legal papers that they hoped might prompt four justices to agree to hear an election case from Wisconsin.

“So the odds are not based on the legal merits but an assessment of the justices’ spines, and I understand that there is a heated fight underway,” Mr. Eastman wrote, according to the people briefed on the contents of the email. Referring to the process by which at least four justices are needed to take up a case, he added, “For those willing to do their duty, we should help them by giving them a Wisconsin cert petition to add into the mix.”

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The Wisconsin lawyer, Kenneth Chesebro, replied that the “odds of action before Jan. 6 will become more favorable if the justices start to fear that there will be ‘wild’ chaos on Jan. 6 unless they rule by then, either way.”

Their exchange took place five days after Mr. Trump issued a call for his supporters to attend a “protest” at the Ellipse near the White House on Jan. 6, 2021, the day Congress would certify the electoral vote count confirming Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory. “Be there. Will be wild!” Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter.

The previously unreported exchange is part of a group of emails obtained by the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol by a mob of Mr. Trump’s supporters.

Mr. Chesebro’s comment about the justices being more open to hearing a case if they fear chaos was striking for its link to the potential for the kind of mob scene that materialized at the Capitol weeks later.

And Mr. Eastman’s email, if taken at face value, raised the question of how he would have known about internal tension among the justices about dealing with election cases. Mr. Eastman had been a clerk for Justice Clarence Thomas....

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is a statement by a lifelong ultra right wing retired judge who Pence brought in because of his legal stature and gave Pence his advice.


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/judge-luttig-trump-clear-present-danger-democracy-rcna34111?icid=nextpost_bot


Judge Luttig: Trump is a ‘clear and present danger’ to democracy


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About a month ago, former Defense Secretary Mark Esper, who worked alongside Donald Trump for a year and a half, publicly declared that the former president is unsuited for public office. Esper went on to agree that Trump represents “a threat to democracy.”

As political criticisms go, this remains a unique condemnation. Officials are routinely targeted with all kinds of rebukes about their competence and integrity, but to say that a leader represents “a threat to democracy” is to argue that our system of government may no longer endure if that leader holds a position of influence.

It’s the difference between a crooked politician and a dangerous one: The problems posed by the latter are existential.

Esper’s fully justified concerns came to mind again yesterday during the latest Jan. 6 committee hearing, as one of the witnesses echoed the former Pentagon chief. CNBC reported:

Retired federal Judge J. Michael Luttig, who advised Pence ahead of the Capitol riot, directly accused Trump and his allies of waging a “war on democracy” on Jan. 6, 2021. He called Trump a “clear and present danger” to American democracy. “Our democracy today is on a knife’s edge,” Luttig, a former judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, said.

It’s likely that much of the country is unfamiliar with Luttig, but circling back to our earlier coverage, in conservative legal circles, he has few rivals. As Politico recently noted, the jurist has spent much of his adult life operating “at the top of the conservative legal world.”

Luttig has been an attorney in the Reagan White House, a clerk for Antonin Scalia, and one of the nation’s most prominent conservative judges, overseeing clerks with familiar names such as Ted Cruz and John Eastman. Not surprisingly, during some recent Republican administrations, Luttig was considered for the U.S. Supreme Court.

When then-Vice President Mike Pence and his team weighed their legal options after the 2020 election, they sought the former judge’s advice. He told them to follow the law. They did.

Nearly two years later, Luttig delivered a warning to the bipartisan select panel investigating the attack on the Capitol: Trump and his confederates not only targeted our democracy after losing in 2020, they’re prepared to do so again.

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“[T]o this very day,” the retired jurist testified, “the former president, his allies and supporters pledge that in the presidential election of 2024, if the former president or his anointed successor as the Republican Party presidential candidate were to lose that election, that they would attempt to overturn that 2024 election in the same way that they attempted to overturn the 2020 election, but succeed in 2024, where they failed in 2020.”

He added that “they are executing that blueprint in open and plain view of the American public.”

There’s a school of thought that says the Jan. 6 investigation is unnecessary — an idea espoused by those eager to, as they put it, “move on.” The pushback to such an argument is obvious: Given the seriousness of the plot against our political system, accountability demands an accounting of what happened and who was responsible.

But even if one is mistakenly indifferent to those questions, the point of this exercise is not inherently retrospective: The committee’s work and the search for truth is about our future, too.

A Washington Post report added, “Jan. 6, Luttig said, was a war within a broader war over the future of the country, ‘a war irresponsibly instigated by the former president and his political allies, and his supporters.’ The war rages today, he added, and ‘as a political matter of fact, only the party that instigated this war over our democracy can bring an end to this war.’”

Luttig was right to remind everyone about this foundational truth. One can only hope his ostensible Republican allies were listening.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

confidential informant for the FBI says the proud boys would have killed Pence and Pelosi. That was their intention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX_GfTH7U_s

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trump knew pences safety was compromised so does he send in the troops nope what does he do. he increases the threat level...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVhIIJtICFY


Mary Trump On Donald Trump’s Criminal Intent

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

criminal intent was met... says a federal prosecutor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Riua5VgWfeY


Analyzing Week 2 Of The January 6 Committee Hearings


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Symone Sanders hosts legal expert Glenn Kirschner & journalist David Corn for analysis on the January 6 Committee hearings, the case against Trump, and the DOJ investigation.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

number 2 at justice testified he told trump directly that election fraud was investigated and none was found including the right wing famous suitcase one was a lie. The video tapes show nothing occurred.

again trump will not testify under oath...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD_3hZgXphY


Trump Was Told Election Workers He Terrorized Was Innocent, Hearings Show


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Rachel Maddow looks at how Donald Trump and his supporters terrorized Georgia election workers, Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, he falsely accused of rigging the state's election against him even though former Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue told him the accusations were bogus.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmk1vLuHtjQ


Republican Rebuffed Trump, Sounded Alarm On 'Breathtaking' Fake Elector Scheme


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Rachel Maddow tells the story of Republican Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers who not only rejected the Donald Trump team's fake elector scheme for overturning Trump's election loss, but issued a statement to make the public aware of what was afoot. Bowers will speak at Tuesday's January 6th hearing.


more on trumps fake electors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHFGvuL_UQI

az top republican is a true hero when pressured by the trump liars he pushed back not behind closed doors but alerts the public what they wanted was illegal. What a hero...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwpphQHxbXM


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow the committee has evidence members of congress asked for pardons. if you did you should disclose you are a criminal...

cowards are right wingers..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lajjwi3EZCw


AOC asks Gaetz, Boebert and Greene if they requested pardons


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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) tells Dana Bash that every member of Congress should be able to answer whether they asked the Trump White House for a presidential pardon.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone who does not understand by now that Trump is a fascist and the Proud Boys, among others, are his brownshirts, is either beyond stupid—or part of the conspiracy.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lying Loser 45 is being exposed day by day!

What's clear is that the insurrection was planned and enjoyed by Lying Loser 45!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is a right winger that brought a gun, and said if he had seen Polosi he would have been charged with other... Does not even make this article or other media front pages.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/17/politics/mark-mazza-capitol-riot/index.html



US Capitol rioter who carried weapon loaded with hollow-point bullets pleads guilty


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CNN)A January 6, 2021, rioter pleaded guilty Friday to carrying a loaded firearm on US Capitol grounds and assaulting police officers with one of their own batons during the insurrection.

Mark Mazza, who told federal investigators he regretted not seeing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi during the riot and that they would "be here for another reason" if he had, faces a maximum of 20 years for assaulting officers with a dangerous weapon.
Jan. 6 hearings have revealed a ton of new material. Here's a recap
Jan. 6 hearings have revealed a ton of new material. Here's a recap
According to the plea agreement, Mazza, 57, carried a revolver loaded with shotgun and hollow-point rounds in a holster under his shirt during the "Stop the Steal" rally and on Capitol grounds that day.
Republican lawmakers and conservative allies have often falsely claimed that no weapons were brought to the Capitol to argue the attack was not the violent insurrection that it was.
Mazza lost the weapon on Capitol grounds sometime before walking to the Lower West Terrace tunnel where rioters were battling police officers, according to the plea.
Inside the tunnel, Mazza held open a door against police officers as "other rioters used flag poles, batons, sticks, and stolen law enforcement shields as weapons to strike at, hit, and try to force their way through" the police line, the plea agreement states.
He then stole a police officer's baton and used it against the officers guarding the tunnel entrance.
The plea agreement also states that after Mazza was pushed out of the tunnel by police officers, he "took steps to assist" Capitol Police Officer Michael Fanone, who was dragged out into the crowd and beaten. Mazza, the agreement says, "was in close physical proximity to (Fanone) and took steps to assist the officer from being further assaulted by members of the riot."
Mazza left Capitol grounds only after law enforcement deployed flash-bang grenades later that day, the agreement says.
Mazza originally denied assaulting officers, even saying he assisted them out of the building, despite video footage of him swinging a baton in a battle with police. He drove home to Indiana after the riot with the stolen baton in his possession, according to prosecutors.
Mazza was recorded in multiple videos saying, "We own this house!"
Doctor known for spreading Covid misinformation is sentenced to prison for role in US Capitol attack
Doctor known for spreading Covid misinformation is sentenced to prison for role in US Capitol attack
Federal investigators found Mazza after he falsely reported the weapon he brought to the riot was stolen on January 8, 2021, claiming it was taken from his car at an Ohio casino. He later told investigators he fabricated the claim because he feared member of Antifa might find the gun and his name was "all over it."

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