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MalibuGuru
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MalibuGuru
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 Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| PS, You idiots should listen to your once loved Tulsi Gabbard |
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coachg
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: You idiots |
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| MalibuGuru wrote: | | After decades of distrusting big pharma, you embraced them. What suckers. |
Speaking of mathematically challenged idiots.
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MalibuGuru
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:39 am Post subject: Re: You idiots |
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| coachg wrote: | | MalibuGuru wrote: | | After decades of distrusting big pharma, you embraced them. What suckers. |
Speaking of mathematically challenged idiots.
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Mmm |
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coachg
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real-human
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: You idiots |
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| MalibuGuru wrote: | | coachg wrote: | | MalibuGuru wrote: | | After decades of distrusting big pharma, you embraced them. What suckers. |
Speaking of mathematically challenged idiots.
Coachg |
Mmm |
big fama had to pass this around the world for OK. And the big pharma does not control every nation. Believe it or not there are smart people all over the world and you always have your world is flat right wingers no matter what science says. I am confident there are some right wingers who still believe the world is flat.
I know you right wingers love your idiots like ragan, Palin, trump and would walk off the edge of the flat world believing anything they and the oil cartel tells you.
Here is the scientific community against this doctor.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/11/medical-experts-reject-florida-surgeon-generals-covid-vaccine-guidance-00061352
Medical experts reject Florida surgeon general’s Covid-19 vaccine guidance
| Quote: | TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida’s surgeon general faced major blowback from the medical community after warning men against taking the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna Covid-19 vaccines and highlighting an analysis claiming the shots increase the risk of cardiac-related deaths.
The guidance from Joseph A. Ladapo even prompted Twitter to temporarily block a social media post from the surgeon general promoting the analysis, though the social media company restored it.
Daniel Salmon, director of the Institute for Vaccine Safety at Johns Hopkins University, said Ladapo’s recommendations go against guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and American Academy of Pediatrics. Other agencies or medical associations, including the Food and Drug Administration and Mayo Clinic, have also emphasized that the vaccines are safe and effective.
“It looks to me like this is politics driving science,” Salmon said on Tuesday. “And the result is you get terrible science.”
U.S. Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs Sarah Lovenheim called Ladapo’s analysis flawed and a far cry from science.
“COVID-19 vaccines have been proven safe and effective, and severe adverse reactions are rare,” Lovenheim wrote in a statement. “The benefits of COVID-19 vaccination — preventing death and hospitalization — are well-established and continue to outweigh any potential risks.”
Ladapo claims his analysis was based on a Florida Department of Health study showing an 84 percent increase in cardiac related deaths among men aged 18 to 39 years old within 28 days of becoming vaccinated through mRNA vaccines. Yet the medical community rejected the analysis Ladapo promoted.
“I try to give a balanced discussion of what the benefits are of vaccination, what are the risks?” Jason Salemi, associate professor of epidemiology at the University of South Florida College of Public Health, said. “And not just the vaccine itself, but certainly of Covid, and that’s what I don’t see here.”
Ladapo’s recent guidance follows a long pattern questioning the safety of Covid-19 vaccines. In June 2021, before Gov. Ron DeSantis appointed him to be the state’s surgeon general, Ladapo added his name among 20 other health professionals who petitioned the FDA against quickly authorizing the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. The petition also calls on more scrutiny of the mRNA technology used in the vaccines.
Ladapo also previously recommended against children receiving the Covid-19 vaccines, prompting outcry from the American Academy of Pediatrics and other health associations. The state Department of Health also opted against pre-ordering vaccine supplies for children after the FDA gave emergency approval for kids under 5 to receive the vaccine. Florida was the only state to not pre-order the vaccines.
Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo, front left, gestures as speaks to supporters.
FLORIDA
Florida is the only state to skip pre-ordering Covid-19 vaccines for kids
BY AREK SARKISSIAN
Ladapo said during a Tuesday night interview that he stands by his recommendation and the study in large part because he believes many people are now naturally immune to the virus, saying: “I absolutely believe that’s the correct guidance.”
He added that the latest guidance only applies to the pandemic as it stands today and not for its entirety.
“And I wouldn’t have given that guidance, because I don’t know the answer to that would have required much more thought,” Ladapo said. “But at this point in the pandemic, with the degree of immunity in Florida, the calculus was much simpler.”
He also said that he decided to sign the June 2021 petition after reading early studies showing adverse reactions to mRNA vaccines.
Salemi, however, said the study Ladapo highlighted shouldn’t be used to give such importance guidance on the vaccine.
“I just cannot fathom a group of epidemiologists who would perform an investigation, looking at the risks of vaccination, and not also have performed an analysis that looked at the risks associated with the infection itself,” Salemi said.
Salmon at Johns Hopkins University also pointed to the Florida DOH report, which had no listed authors.
“It would never get published in a decent journal,” Salmon said. “Any decent journal would reject it because there’s not enough detail.” |
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MalibuGuru
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Get those jabs every 3 months guys |
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coachg
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| MalibuGuru wrote: | | Get those jabs every 3 months guys |
Actually, it's more often than that. You can't wait 3 months to post dumb shit here.
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Malabu barfie, why don't you go assist at the ebola camps, it isn't real.... make sure you do not wear a mask.
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MikeLaRonde
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| coachg wrote: |
Bottom line Malibu; you still can't fix stupid. You are, & will remain the person that posted something without actually fact checking it or doing the math. You let your emotions get in front of your brain, kind of like Trump does with his mouth.
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Really, coach Girlypants? Is that the kind of behavior you encourage on this site, as a moderator here on IW?
The proof is obviously here, and you clearly don't want to read it. Lord knows how many of my (and ISO's) posts you conveniently ignored.
I've already gone into detail about your lack of spherical tendencies. On more than one occasion, I even went back and deleted the offending words. As a professional courtesy, of course. What a waste.
As to cheering on the evil entities .. It seems to me that our invisible "friend" J. McG has finally got the message: he REALLY DOESN'T WANT TO DO THIS (any more).
Believe me, coachroach: NEITHER DO YOU! (assuming you're a different human .. gee I wonder who else often says "can't fix stupid" here ..)
Are we clear now, coach? Maybe this is a subject you shouldn't go near. Just sayin'. |
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